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PS2  About pes 4.7
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by Arsenal09
Aug 25, 2007
THE GOOD:
The shoting system
trick
editing
boot editing
graphics
Arsenal and man untd licensed
la liga licensed
frebch league licensed

THE BAD:
no german league
cant change clubs in ml
free kicks are hard
skills hard to pull off

SUMMARY:
Pro Evolution Soccer has been the dominant force in football games for almost a decade, outshining its rivals on PSone and then increasing its lead during the lifespan of PS2. Although FIFA came close, most notably with the latest instalment in the series, PES has always maintained its edge. However, the introduction of Xbox 360 has levelled the playing field, with EA using the opportunity to rebuild its football franchise from the ground up. Konami, on the other hand, has played it safe by essentially porting over the current-gen version of the game, adding a couple of next-gen bells and whistles and giving it a lick of HD paint.

As a result PES 6 on 360 doesn't look that much different to its current-gen versions, at least on the surface. You can't test your ball skills as Adriano while the game loads and the menus, although functional, certainly aren't flash. There are no player portraits during the team selection, just thumbnails of the club badges if they're licensed or, if they rank as one of PES's many faux clubs, just a made-up logo and loosely relevant name. However, while PES 6 is certainly not the virtual Panini sticker album that is FIFA, it's progressed since the last game. Admittedly, the English league still only has two official clubs - Arsenal and Manchester United - and that's unlikely to change while EA maintains the rights for FIFA. However, players who favour something a little more continental are well catered for, with licensed teams from Ligue 1, Serie A, Eredivisie and Liga Espanola all featuring. Two additional leagues also contain a mish-mash of other official clubs, from Juventus and Bayern Munich to Rangers and Celtic.


Out on the pitch, there's a noticeable difference between current-gen PES and the 360 version, although it's not so obviously next-gen as FIFA 07. It's sharper and more defined, plus the player models are more detailed, but it's not as drop-dead gorgeous as EA's game. Player animation is much the same as its PS2 counterpart and, when the camera pulls out to wide, the differences between the two are hardly that huge. Player likenesses are still better compared to FIFA though, even though they're less detailed. You can move along the starting line-up of any club and easily pick out all the recognisable players, whereas it's not quite so obvious with FIFA.

As for the way it plays, anyone familiar with PES will instantly feel at home with the Xbox 360 version. The pad layout is exactly the same, although sprint and player select are located on the left and right bumpers rather than the triggers. This takes a little getting used to, although it becomes second nature after a couple of games. Likewise, playing with the 360 pad's analogue stick isn't quite as responsive as it is using a PS2 d-pad - which is an ongoing issue we have with football games on Xbox 360. Sure, it's possible to use the Xbox's d-pad, but it's positioned awkwardly and just doesn't feel as smooth under the thumb. To be fair, playing with the stick is less of a problem the more you play, but - in our opinion - will never top a PS2 d-pad for fast, precision control.

Stringing together slick passing play is as enjoyable and easy as it's ever been in PES and the satisfaction of catching your opponent on the counter-attack with well-timed lofted through-ball still sends tingles down our spines. Actually pulling it off successfully isn't quite so easy, though. The defence in all versions of PES 6 has been improved and that's certainly the case here, with centre-backs hustling your attackers and almost always winning the ball if you hold onto it for too long. Similarly breaking away from the defence is just as difficult, even if you time the pass to your striker perfectly. The most cumbersome defender can catch up with an attacker, even if they have a couple of yards' head-start, which can be annoying when you're playing as France and have Thierry Henry up front.

Teams play together much more tightly on the whole, too. Players cover for their team-mates more, with the whole of midfield backtracking to help out the defence if you manage to break free. There's a lot more movement in attack too, with players moving up in support when the chance arises. Admittedly you still have to coax them into action some times, either by changing tactics on the fly or staggering your run so they overlap, but PES 6 still feels more attack-focused than the last game.

Having said that, it's not easy to score in PES, even more so than in the PS2 game. During our first half a dozen games, we found most shots blazed over the bar, and that's only when we managed to get past the brick wall-like defence. It's the same with headers: even if you're nutting a corner in from the six-yard box, there's no guaranteeing it'll go in, so PES 6 really isn't a game for players who don't like working for their goals.

Closing Comments
That’s always been part of PES’s charm, though. It’s not a goal-fest like FIFA but a much more tactical, realistic game. Its trademark tight gameplay is still intact, although it's not as sharp as the current-gen versions and the analogue stick isn’t quite as direct as a d-pad. Despite this, it still offers a football experience much closer to the real thing that any other football game. Admittedly, the online mode isn’t fantastic and - while it's perfectly playable over Live - it only supports one-on-one matches, which is a huge step backwards considering the online PS2 game is much more substantial. We can’t help but feel a little disappointed with the presentation of the 360 version either, especially in light of the great things EA achieved with FIFA 07. However, there’s no denying PES 6 is still a great – probably the best, in fact – football game on Xbox 360

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PS2  My Thoughts On PES6 5.0
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by EricF
from Dublin, , Ireland
Aug 18, 2007
THE GOOD:
Graphical Content


Great Player Appearance


Tricks & Skills


Edit Mode


Tougher Gameplay


Difficult Free Kicks


Improved Online Play


Excellent Close Control

THE BAD:
No German League (With the exception of Bayern Munich)


Short Free Kicks (Wall already organised when you take it)


The Lack Of Licenses

SUMMARY:
Pro Evolution Soccer 6 is a very impressive game. It gives you the edge. If you don't actually play football yourself, this is your second option. In my honest opinion, easily the best football game around. Which includes Master League as well as the older editions of PES. This game personally, doesn't get boring, I, myself, have been playing it since early November, and yet to get bored. Obviously though, there can be improvements made, but it's the same with every game, it can't be perfect, also you can't get everyone to love it. But if you like football, and love to pass the ball about, play REAL football, then I suggest, Pro Evolution Soccer 6. As you would have read above, "The Lack Of Licenses", to be honest, it's a very minor disappointment about the game. And it also creates the joys of the EDIT MODE, where you can edit player appearances, edit teams, formations, football boots, make new players, the list is endless. Not to mention the great help from the members in the forum, with the Kit threads and edit player threads, if becomes even more simple for you guys at home. It's the game you know you want to buy.

Master League is my keen feature of PES. Without it, the game wouldn't be as good as it is. It's very enjoyable, and if you do well enough, you can have anybody you'd like playing for your team. you can start with the Master League Default Players which is mainly for experienced players looking for a real challenge. The real challenge of Master League, is your first few seasons, which is when you have little money, and not many players would leave their club to go to yours, but that's the enjoyable bit about Master League in my honest opinion. The Master League brings out what Pro Evolution is. It's the most enjoyable feature to all PES games, and probably always will be, with improvements each year along the way.

Tricks & Skills are another key factor or PES, it makes the close control part of the game, truly amazing, tricks such as the Stepover, Flip Flap, Cruyff Turn, V Feint and many more. It is difficult at first to perform some of these tricks and skills, but that's where the forum comes in handy, which will teach you how to perform these tricks and learn more. They've been such an improvement from last year's game, making the close control much more smooth and opening paths. I'm sure there are tricks I've never even performed before, it's what I like about it, the forum helped me out a lot and I learned all my tricks there, the V Feint being my favourite.

Edit Mode is a very enjoyable feature to PES also. You can edit almost everything you want to edit except for maybe, stadiums. It's all about patience though, you'll need patience editing kits, logos and badges, but as I said, very enjoyable, not to mention, the outcome of your work always looks good if you do it right.



Thanks for reading, and post back comments if you really must!

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PS2  Pro Evolution Soccer 6 4.9
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by Tommo9000
from Newcastle, Tyne and Wear, UK
May 12, 2007
THE GOOD:
*Slightly improved graphics.
*Body animations improved.
*Facial expressions more realistic.
*Goalkeeper animations improved.
*New tournament.
*New licenses.
*Improved ball control.
*More shop items.

THE BAD:
*Improvements are minor.
*Increased realism may seem like a step back (see below).
*German clubs removed (excl. Bayern Munich).

SUMMARY:
With the expectations of a classic game heightened by the success of previous PES titles, there was no doubt that PES6 would be a quality football game and Konami duly delivered. One main thing that has always needed improving was the problems with glitches during games but in PES6, many of the problems found in previous titles in the series and the game is generally glitch free (apart from odd problem when players collide). The player’s animations haven’t ever been brilliant either but PES6 has a wide range of running styles, kicking styles and other animations to make the game feel more realistic. Facial expressions now reflect how a player might feel after coming out of a bad tackle or if they have been in a shooting position and missed when they really should have scored, making the game feeling even more lifelike. As usual, the graphics have been tweaked to look better and the kits have been ‘smoothened’ over and pixilation has been reduced. There are a few changes in the way of licensing. The main addition being that Reebok boots and footballs have been added to the list and Konami have even included a Nike football (although this can only be played in the Spanish league). Man Utd have a fully licensed kit but Chelsea go back to having a default kit (it was the other way round in PES5). A new tournament has also been added. It is literally the World Cup, including qualifiers, in everything but name.

However, most of the improvements and new inclusions are just minor tweaks to the original gameplay. The change when actually playing a match seems as though Konami have just changed the way it plays just to make it feel like a new game. The way the players take control of the ball and move with it may look like Konami have taken a step back, due to it being slower and less precise than PES5. This may be because Konami are trying to make it harder for experienced gamers. The A.I doesn’t seem to have improved either, even if off-the-ball movement has become better. You’ll often find that potential targets to receive the ball are in offside positions and that the defender’s positional sense could be improved. Passing the ball seems to have been made harder and it’s almost impossible to complete a pass to a team-mate who is off the screen. As well as this, the German club sides, with the exception of Bayern Munich, have been removed from the game, which isn’t good for fans of the German league.

Having said this, the game is arguably the best PES game released and, despite certain frustrations, it’s still the best football game available on the PS2. Next-generation PES should show exactly what Konami can do when given less limitations.

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