Sorry, I call him Cless instead of Cress. XD

Well, I don't know if this has been talked about, but meh...

It took me a loooong time to get him.... Sometimes I was very close, butthen he did the Alvein Final..... can't remember, please someone correct me. XD

Finally I let my brother try to beat him, and he somehow did... XD

This isn't much, but meh.

The first time i fought him...well, lets just said i died over and over again...poor reid "strongest man LOL!"
but then i found out the tricks to beating him and WALLA he's a piece of cake!

Tricks? What tricks?

I had a Holy Symbol and Warrior's Symbol on him, by the way. XD

your supposed to have all the golden armor and reverse dolls and 2-3 certain moves to use i jus used the special demon hammer and the last neo skill u get....took 2 mins..i timed it and i didnt even have to use a reverse doll,but i only had 20hp left lol

"simple, simple" says Meredy.

All you need to do is Equip the Last Fencer and the ACC+100 ascessory (from Sekundes)
When the fight starts just rush him and start slahing using NORMAL attacks. You'll drain HP from him! If he catches you in a corner and starts using the idiotic sonic blade attacks just press R1 and UP + Forward in the D-pad to jump to him!

When he starts using Dimensional Strike, use Rising Pheonix+ Burning pheonix to attack him till he got around 3000HP left...the this is risky, but try it its really COOL

Let him damage you till reid's HP flashes and unleash Aurora wall+ aurora sword.

Priceless finish(time slows down as the final slash defeats Cless)

ACC+100?i have beaten sekundes and i didnt get one of those...is that only for 100%?

Oh yea...It's called the Derris Enblem.
because Cress has a high Evade, he's hard to hit unless you have high Accuracy...(he "blocks" your attack)

oh ok.ive gotten that b4

quote Snuffles_2187

(Snuffles's trick)

Derris Emblem?! Eh... I fought Cless before fighting Sekundes. XD

*grins* Uh...All right then, if you say so, lol....
This is getting quite old, only the three of us here...
Oh well, three is a crowd.

well....im surprised we keep finding different things to talk about really

Yeah, talk about something to do with beating cless...
Well, now he really is a lousy fella, no problem really, i could take him down without any skills(lvl 156 now HAHAHA!)

You're level 156 now?!?!?! >_< I've only played through this game once! XD lol! I think I was level 70-something... I dunno. XD

im playing it a 3rd time now the other times i was 63 and 64......i dont like to train that much lol..im lv 31 and about to fight ice craymel....but she always kills me


anyway i only beat cless once.....and i was giving it my all

it was super easy i remember doing it on the 1st cd,....
of course i was lvl 70....
*stupid friend....lend me the game but forgets the 2nd cd*
anyway i went there with the best armors i could have at the moment.....
and i was equipping a dagger for the bonus attack rating....
then all i ever did was use the spiral attack megasonic trust combo
took a while but i managed to go through it on hard
right now i stopped playing but reid is lvl 250 while the others are at like 205.....