I've only played Legend of Dragoon a couple of times with this weekend being my most recent playthrough, so this has probably already been confirmed or disproved, but here goes. Also, this will have quite a few potential spoilers, so if you're still playing the game and haven't beaten it before, you've been warned.

Is it just me, or is Haschel really Dart's grandfather? It may just be a crazy coincidence since they look nothing alike, but here's the evidence that supports this:

• Disc 2: When you first enter Fletz in Tiberoa, the group notices that the bridge you cross going to the bar from the entrance to the city is named Claire Bridge. This is the first time you hear Dart mention the name of his mother, which is also Claire. Haschel also mentions that it's the name of his runaway daughter that he's been looking for for 20 years. This spurs a discussion among the group about this theory, which they disprove based on the fact that the two look nothing alike.

I've pretty much got the biggest point to disprove this:

HASCHEL IS ASIAN. DART IS NOT.

And Zeke (I think that's his name) Is Dart's father. This has been proven many times. Now remember that Zeke has been alive since the Dragon Campaign (11 000 years), so he can't be the son of Haschel. Lastly, Haschel's daughter ran away 20 years earlier. But Dart is 21 in the game, so he would have been 1 year old when she "dipped" from Haschel's place. I didnt mean to completely bash your theory though. At times, I thought it might be possible.

That and the fact I just came up with this stuff now. XD

Actually Dart'd dad's name is Zeig... You were close.

quote Hard_Rocker

Actually Dart'd dad's name is Zeig... You were close.

Actually, It's Zieg. You were close too.

quote DivineDragoon23

I've pretty much got the biggest point to disprove this:

HASCHEL IS ASIAN. DART IS NOT.

quote DivineDragoon23

And Zeke (I think that's his name) Is Dart's father. This has been proven many times. Now remember that Zeke has been alive since the Dragon Campaign (11 000 years), so he can't be the son of Haschel.

quote DivineDragoon23

Lastly, Haschel's daughter ran away 20 years earlier. But Dart is 21 in the game, so he would have been 1 year old when she "dipped" from Haschel's place.

Plus, there's nothing that says that Claire and Zieg didn't meet before she left Rouge if this theory is actually correct, and for all we know, she could have left 24 or 25 years prior to the events in the game.

And also, Dart is actually 23 in the game. The Black Monster destroyed Neet 18 years before the game started, and if you pay attention, you'll learn that Dart was 5 at the time of the attack. 18 + 5 = 23.

Shit! The manual lied to me! It lists Dart as 21 years old in the manual!!!

And I'm pretty sure Haschel wouldn't make an "approximation" about how long ago it was Claire ran away. It's a little more important than that.

quote DivineDragoon23

Shit! The manual lied to me! It lists Dart as 21 years old in the manual!!!

quote Roxas Rules

quote Hard_Rocker

Actually Dart'd dad's name is Zeig... You were close.

Actually, It's Zieg. You were close too.

quote DivineDragoon23

Shit! The manual lied to me! It lists Dart as 21 years old in the manual!!!

And I'm pretty sure Haschel wouldn't make an "approximation" about how long ago it was Claire ran away. It's a little more important than that.

I really don't think he would do that. Would you wait several years for your child to come home? IT reminds me of the simpsons, specifically Nelson's dad. He went out to get a pack of smokes, and never came back. Nelson still thought he was out buying that pack of smokes for over 5 years. XD

And one more thing, Dart used to train under Haschel. And Dart already knew about how he was searching for his daughter. Don't you think that they would have come up to the conclusion that Dart's mom and Haschel's daughter are one and the same (if it was true)?

Haschel: I'm searching for my daughter, Claire, who ran away some time ago.

Dart: My mom's name is Claire, too.

Haschel: Interesting.

Dart: OH SHI--

*heads explode*

quote DivineDragoon23

Don't you think that they would have come up to the conclusion that Dart's mom and Haschel's daughter are one and the same (if it was true)?

quote Avalith

quote DivineDragoon23

Don't you think that they would have come up to the conclusion that Dart's mom and Haschel's daughter are one and the same (if it was true)?

Given how slow Dart was to catch on with Shana, I doubt it. The strongest evidence in the game that actually supports this is in the Moon on Disc 4 where Haschel says that Claire doesn't know about Dart yet. My question is: Why else would he add the word yet in with his statement if there was no connection between them?

It's obvious that he is Dart's grandfather. If he wasn't they wouldn't even bother to give hints and yada yada about the similarities between dart's mom and Haschel's daughter. Books, video games, and movies NEVER/RARELY waste space on uneccessary info. The rarely is for those who like to jabber longer than the rest and those forms of entertainment are normally full of too much detail for one to process and actually enjoy.

Also the look factor, well Dart takes after his dad. I'm a female clone of my dad and I don't look a thing like my grandparents on my mom's side....Actually now that i think about it none of my family looks similar...oh well

But...Haschel is asian (meaning Claire is too). Dart has nothing asian about him. Is everyone in your family of the same culture? If not, do you posses any features of their race? I know a dude where I work who's mom is asian, but father is white. Everything about him looks white, except for his eyes. Let's just say he's used to widescreen TV. XD