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Celes Leonhart UNITE (moderator) Steam wiki staff guitarhero total posts: 3401 since: Sep 2005	Aug 29, 08 at 5:26pm re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	I loved Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, but I'm struggling to get into either the original Tactics or Disgaea when I give it a shot, Disgaea especially. I guess the long-winded battles really don't appeal to me much. Too much covering ground and fuss like that. ------------------- xbl/psn: CelesLeonhart
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000DESTRUCT0 Neutral Good forum raider total posts: 3066 since: Nov 2006	Aug 29, 08 at 5:55pm re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	I haven't played Tactics Advance because I heard it was a sequel, not a port. I was afraid Square might have made a great story into a farce, much like they've done/are starting to do with FFVII. quote Celes Leonhart I wouldn't use Metal Gear Solid 4 because they changed near enough everything, turning it into a pumped up, gadget-filled third person shooter. I haven't played it yet. Please tell me they didn't eliminate the stealth element of the game, because that's all that made the gameplay great. quote Zero and X FF can compare to all those except Baldurs Gate, thats a dungeon crawler. I agree that you can't really compare FF to Baldur's Gate, but it's definitely not a "dungeon crawler." True, it's a D&D game, but there isn't much dungeon to it if you stick mostly to the main quest. When I think dungeon crawler I think of a game with little plot that focuses on acquiring loot. Baldur's Gate is far from that. ------------------- quote Drizzt I've sparred with demons from the Nine Hells themselves, I shall barely break a sweat here today.
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think of something forum raider total posts: 2935 since: Dec 2004	Aug 29, 08 at 6:18pm re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	HAY GUIZE!, DID I MISS MUCH!? you probably don't even remember me ._. -------------------
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Celes Leonhart UNITE (moderator) Steam wiki staff guitarhero total posts: 3401 since: Sep 2005	Aug 29, 08 at 6:24pm re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	Holy shit, it's Mike. edit: will edit to reply to 000DESTRUCT0 in a sec [D quote I haven't played Tactics Advance because I heard it was a sequel, not a port. I was afraid Square might have made a great story into a farce, much like they've done/are starting to do with FFVII Yeah, most fans of the original that I found really hated Advance in comparison. But I wouldn't worry, the stories are completely unrelated, it just uses the same system. It's about a group of friends who end up creating an imaginary world based on their favourite Playstation 2 game, Final Fantasy XII. quote Please tell me they didn't eliminate the stealth element of the game, because that's all that made the gameplay great. I guess it's all up to opinion, but in my view they completely demeaned the necessity of stealth. If you wanna run an' gun, there's not much stopping you. All you have to do is slip on the attire of one of the two opposing factions and you're happily welcomed into their forces. I'd just say Baldurs Gate is more a Western RPG than an Eastern. [size=1][color=#666666]This message was edited by Celes Leonhart on Aug 29 2008. ------------------- xbl/psn: CelesLeonhart
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000DESTRUCT0 Neutral Good forum raider total posts: 3066 since: Nov 2006	Aug 29, 08 at 6:28pm re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	quote think of something you probably don't even remember me ._. I remember you, but never really knew who you are. ------------------- quote Drizzt I've sparred with demons from the Nine Hells themselves, I shall barely break a sweat here today.
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think of something forum raider total posts: 2935 since: Dec 2004	Aug 29, 08 at 6:31pm re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	quote 000DESTRUCT0 quote think of something you probably don't even remember me ._. I remember you, but never really knew who you are. quote Celes Leonhart Holy shit, it's Mike. So, whats gwanin' in the Final Fantasy VII forum? Oh and MGS4, was a frikken let down, its not even like "Everyones against you, you get seen your Amy Whinehouses' 'persciprtional' drugs" anymore. -------------------
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neto_360 All I need is the air I breathe Neo or Bust total posts: 7565 since: Dec 2005	Aug 29, 08 at 6:32pm re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	quote think of something So, whats gwanin' in the Final Fantasy VII forum? Trying to bring back the members from back in the day ------------------- Credit to Fire_Fox for the banner FF8 Caption Competition \| FF8 Forum \| FF8 Roleplay
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think of something forum raider total posts: 2935 since: Dec 2004	Aug 29, 08 at 6:34pm re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	quote neto_360 quote think of something So, whats gwanin' in the Final Fantasy VII forum? Trying to bring back the members from back in the day ISN'T THAT ME? -------------------
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Celes Leonhart UNITE (moderator) Steam wiki staff guitarhero total posts: 3401 since: Sep 2005	Aug 29, 08 at 6:42pm re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	quote neto_360 quote think of something So, whats gwanin' in the Final Fantasy VII forum? Trying to bring back the members from back in the day Today is a glorious day. quote think of something So, whats gwanin' in the Final Fantasy VII forum? Deteriation mainly, but a few returning regulars is nice to see. edit: WHY AREN'T YOU ON MY MSN LIST, MIKE? D: ------------------- xbl/psn: CelesLeonhart
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think of something forum raider total posts: 2935 since: Dec 2004	Aug 29, 08 at 7:10pm re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	quote Celes Leonhart quote neto_360 quote think of something So, whats gwanin' in the Final Fantasy VII forum? Trying to bring back the members from back in the day Today is a glorious day. quote think of something So, whats gwanin' in the Final Fantasy VII forum? Deteriation mainly, but a few returning regulars is nice to see. edit: WHY AREN'T YOU ON MY MSN LIST, MIKE? D: BEKAZE I CHANGES MY MSNZ PM -------------------
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ANGRYWOLF high on "N" total posts: 730 since: Feb 2008	Aug 29, 08 at 7:26pm re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	quote Zero and X quote ANGRYWOLF well facepalm back at you friend..smile..infamy points..lol... That was an Oblivion moderator that made the comparison..I think the mods on this site should fight it out to answer the question..hmm..swords at 10 paces...lol..... Well compare FF to: The Grandia series... The Breathe of Fire series... The Ogre Battle series.... The Disgaea Series.... Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate 2..... I'll think of others as time goes by..... Anything in any of those games you would like to see added to an FFVII remake ? FF can compare to all those except Baldurs Gate, thats a dungeon crawler. Also Disgeae is kinda pushing it because its a grid based tacitcal game. Never played Ogre Battle though.. Anyways if theres a remake, I dont think they should change anything other than the graphics, and tweak the gameplay a little bit. What I mean is make the limit break system more like FFX instead of the game not letting you attack normally. Also, add some more dialogue to clear up the story in some areas, but other than that, no major changes. Of course thats just me.... You should have played Ogre Battle, one of the best rpgs ever made, up there with Tactics for me... I left off the Suikoden series....you could compare those I would guess... Baldur's Gate isn't a dungeon crawler..it has a lot more than just searching dungeons for loot.... Well there are other computer rpgs..Fable, Heroes of Might and Magic, the Gothic series....Hard to find anything out there like FF though...
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think of something forum raider total posts: 2935 since: Dec 2004	Aug 29, 08 at 7:29pm re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	quote ANGRYWOLF How would you try to improve a ffvii remake from the original ? ... Final Fantasy VII Remake thread -------------------
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000DESTRUCT0 Neutral Good forum raider total posts: 3066 since: Nov 2006	Aug 29, 08 at 7:43pm re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	quote ANGRYWOLF You should have played Ogre Battle, one of the best rpgs ever made, up there with Tactics for me... Ogre Battle was awesome, but that's all I remember about it unfortunately. quote Celes Leonhart I'd just say Baldurs Gate is more a Western RPG than an Eastern. True, but it kicks ass. quote Celes Leonhart I guess it's all up to opinion, but in my view they completely demeaned the necessity of stealth. If you wanna run an' gun, there's not much stopping you. All you have to do is slip on the attire of one of the two opposing factions and you're happily welcomed into their forces. That's very disappointing. I'll have to refrain from doing that. ------------------- quote Drizzt I've sparred with demons from the Nine Hells themselves, I shall barely break a sweat here today.
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ANGRYWOLF high on "N" total posts: 730 since: Feb 2008	Aug 29, 08 at 8:56pm re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	quote 000DESTRUCT0 quote ANGRYWOLF You should have played Ogre Battle, one of the best rpgs ever made, up there with Tactics for me... Ogre Battle was awesome, but that's all I remember about it unfortunately. quote Celes Leonhart I'd just say Baldurs Gate is more a Western RPG than an Eastern. True, but it kicks ass. quote Celes Leonhart I guess it's all up to opinion, but in my view they completely demeaned the necessity of stealth. If you wanna run an' gun, there's not much stopping you. All you have to do is slip on the attire of one of the two opposing factions and you're happily welcomed into their forces. That's very disappointing. I'll have to refrain from doing that. There was a sequel to Ogre Battle on the N64..it was actually one of the better N64 games..as well as one on one of the Nintendo handhelds... and there are the Fallout games, although the new Fallout 3 that is coming out is supposedly a first person shooter, the previous games were rpgs... What were those Sega games that came out back when Sega had a machine...and was compared to FF..I can't remember it's name though.. Ah yes..it was called Panzer Dragoon..I've never played it although there is a version out for the Playstation 2 if I recall correctly...
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MikeyW Honcho Orgasmo true seeker (2K Remix) since: Apr 2005	Aug 30, 08 at 2:45am re: General Discussion Version XXXXIII - MGS4 > FFVII.
	quote Celes Leonhart I'd probably only watch a Star Trek because it's either got Professor Xavier or Hercules in it. Wait what? -------------------
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