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Final Fantasy VII Challanges

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Final Fantasy VII challanges are not for the faint of heart, or the casual FF7 player. But they can be one of the most rewarding games you can play if you are up for the challange.

Let's start with the basics. These are the most common types of challanges:

LL: Low Level. No characters are allowed to exceed 30. You will need to run from normal encounters and only level up when absolutly nessisary to beat a boss.

NM: No Materia. No Materia is allowed at all through the course of the game. You must trash any materia you receve in the game, it cannot be sold for gil. Any char who has materia when they join your party cannot use it in a battle and it must be de-equipped and trashed as soon as possible.
(Yes that means you can't use the chocobo lure to get past the Midgar Zolom. But if you don't want to level up endlessly to beat it there is an easier way, Just run halfway through the swamp and enter the menu before the Zolom reaches you then save and restart, You will be able to run the rest of the way without the Zolom catching you)

NI: No Items. No items can be used in battle.Exceptions are Key Items, batteries, and the save crystal.

IE: Initial Equip. You may only use the weapon and armor the character had when they first entered your party (I.e. Buster Sword and Bronze Bangle for cloud) Weapons and armor you aquire during the course of the game may be sold.

NA: No Accessories. Accessories can never be equiped. They may be sold for gil.

SC: Single Character. You can only use one char in battle throughout the game. The other two chars must be killed asap and you cannot attack any monsters until you have only one char alive.

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Uncommon challanges: these are usually used in conjunction with the more common challanges.

NNMI: No Non_Mandatory Inns. You are not allowed to use Inns or tents.

NE: No Escaping. You are not allowed to escape during battle.

LE: Lowest exp. You must have the lowest exp possible after beating Jenova-SYNTHESIS.

MO: Materia Only. You may only use Materia. You can't attack or use items.

IO: Items Only. You may only use items. Starts as soon as you can buy Grenaids.

CMO: Command Materia Only. You can only use Command Materia. This may not interfere with other rules, for example if you are doing a NI as well you may not usw W-Item.

MMO: Magic Materia Only. Same as above except with Magic Materia.

NES: No Enemy Skills.

L1L: Level one limits. You can only use Level one Limits.

NLB: No Limit Breaks

NPA: No Physical Attacks. You may not use the attack command in battle.

NS: No Shops. You are only allowed to use items you find or win in the game. (this ecnompasses everything from trivial items like Spider Web to some of the most powerful weapons and materia in the game, like Ultima Weapon and Knights of the Round)


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re: Final Fantasy VII Challanges

I am currently playing a SCIE game ( Single Char, Initial Equip) The game is fairly challanging depending on the level of your char. I am playing with Cloud. Currently I am 11 hours 4 min into the game. Cloud is Level 20 and I am working on beating Reno and Rude when you first artrive at Gongaga. They are pretty tough I couldn't beat them at lvl 18 so I leveled up a little going to try it again.

Update on SCIE game. Finally beat Reno and Rude in Gongaga. I just kept casting cure on myself until my Limit Guage was full then used Clouds Meteorain. Took about 4 min.

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Feb 08, 09 at 3:56am
re: Final Fantasy VII Challanges

The edit button is your friend since double/triple posting isn't allowed.
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re: Final Fantasy VII Challanges

Good to know. Thanks for the heads up.


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Feb 08, 09 at 4:01am
re: Final Fantasy VII Challanges

So sounds like SCIE is Cloud with Buster Sword only?
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Feb 08, 09 at 4:05am
re: Final Fantasy VII Challanges

Yep buster sword and bronze bangle. So I'm only allowed to equip two materia at a time. It takes some stratagy, some of the random encounters are actually harder than boss battles, I usually keep Restore and Enemy Skill equipped. Matra Magic is great against multiple opponents.


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Could you have 3 live characters and have 1 get kicked out while Cloud fights/heals and the other defends?
If so, go to the Midgar Zolom.
Let one person get tailed out of the battle and keep everyone else at max health.
The Midgar Zolom should use Beta which is like an All-Fire-5.
Kill it then you have the skill.

Having a person out of the battle will save you from a game over.
And having the other in the battle, along with your SC, will help take some attacks off of you.
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That's true but I personally wouldn't feel like it was a true SC game if I did that. I was thinking earlier of trying to get Beta, I'm high enough level (21) but it would take a few tries. I would probably cure until I could use meteorain and drop the Zolom by 2k so he rises up then cure until he casts beta then pray he doesn't knock me out or kill me until I kill him first. That's me though, If another player wanted to use your stratagy than that is cool. (I'm not even sure if I could finish it off right now before he tails me out)

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UPDATE: Just getting ready to fight the Zolom.
Cloud lvl 22, HP:902, MP:174.

1st try: Forgot to put Cloud in the back row :/ Had to cure too much, got one Meteorain off then got tailed out.

2nd Try: Much nicer, he only bites for 220 dam instead of 440. Still got tailed out. Ill let yall know if I can accomplish this soon. I'm going to try a few more times.

10th try: I'm beginning to think its not possible at my current level. I simply cannot do enough damage to him to kill him before I get tailed out, espessially with a buster sword. Ill have to come back later when I'm a higher level.

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re: Final Fantasy VII Challanges

I've got an SCIENMNE save somewhere, but I got no idea where exactly I've arrived in the game. I assure you it wasn't easy though.



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I bet. I would have put a NM on my challange but my last challange was NM and I was more than ready to use it again.


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re: Final Fantasy VII Challanges

The Midgar Zolom can be beaten at a very low level:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h31_Wk9A2Io



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Feb 08, 09 at 9:22pm
re: Final Fantasy VII Challanges

quote Kudistos Megistos
The Midgar Zolom can be beaten at a very low level:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h31_Wk9A2Io

Very nice, and an excellent point, unfortunatly that stratagy deosnt help me in and of itself because the Zolom never casts Beta, but I am sure I can modify it a bit to fit my needs. Thank you.


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UPDATE: SCIE game. Just beat the Gi Nattak in Cosmo Canyon. The easiest boss battle so far, I just tossed an X-Potoin at it and boom, instant win. The caves were a bit of a challenge and I died once tyring to get through them until I remembered I had death sentence, which worked wonders on the giant spiders, just heal until the counter is up.
Stats: Cloud level 24 Time 14:10:20

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UPDATE: SCIE game.

Reached Nibel, went straight for the Lost Number after getting items from the Sepheroth clones. This boss was easy, I used Deadly Waste to poison it then defended and cured until I could use Meteorain (only had to use it once) plus two Moltovs and the boss was down. I know I didn't need to beat this boss to continue my game because the only point is getting Vincent but I got Odin as well and I like to be thourough in my games.
Stats: Cloud lvl 24, Time 14:53:07

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UPDATE: SCIE game

Beat Materia Seeker.
Used Meteorain until it cast Trine on me then used trine in between curing and meteorain to stop its hp gain when it cast Cure2 on itself.
Stats: Cloud lvl 26. Time: 16:07:54


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UPDATE: SCIE game
Beat Palmer at rocket town. He was easy, just use Trine and Meteoain, cure when needed.
Stats: Cloud lvl 28

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re: Final Fantasy VII Challanges

challanges sounds fun ill have to try one
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Ok, so its been a while since I updated my progress on my SCIE game, mostly because I got frustrated trying to beat the damn Apps boss in Wutai. That took me a good 10 times or so to beat, I never should have took that sidequest >.<

Anyways, I got past it with a lot of trial and error. I had to level up Cloud so he could withstand a hit from the Aero attack (1500+ Dam) and constantly heal with Hi-Potions until I could use Meteorain. It was all luck that I finally beat the damn thing.

I'm currently in the Temple of the Ancients, just got all the items the clock had to offer and just got knocked off the clock so I can pick up the Nail Bat in the chest... I'm about to fight the enemy (can't remember the name) down there. I equipped the Gravity materia in place of the Restore in hopes of dropping its HP down quickly so I can beat it with a Meteorain.

Not looking forward to the Red Dragon and Demons Gate but Ill let you all know how it goes.

(BTW, I'd appritiate some info/feedback every now and then so I don't have to bribe ppl to post and bump it back up and if anyone wants to try a Challange that would be awsome, I would like to see more than just me blogging the record of one, thanks!)


Ok the enemy killed me, two hits =\ scratch the Gravity. Oh also my master the Most Magnificent Celes Leonhart wants me to tell you to try a challange, as he wants to try one as well!



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re: Final Fantasy VII Challanges

I have done NI, IE, NA, SC, NNMI, NES, NE (easily). NM seems realyl hard I might try it but then again that doesnt make it much fun, I like to enjoy my game as well as the challenge so if the challenge is really boring for me I don't really like to even attempt it, also LL seems really difficult.
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