quote sbob

Paigne, It doesn't work as simple as that. What are you going to do about the Terrorists that go through the building. They can get you from behind.

If you meet up inside its the T's advantage because the point at which they usually meet is when the CTs are coming around the corner just before the up-ramp. If at least 2 Terrorists spread out around the room and wait a bit for the CTs to come it would be very easy targets for them. Even easier for Ts if they use nades.

yes that is what happens to me all the time I play as a Ct i start to go forward and follow all the Ct's untill i notice we are being followed! a whole line of Terrorist is spawning with ak's and all of a sudden we are all dead.

Well, I see most of you as CT's usually go in one BIG Group. Well I find that as a Major drawback Unles you are a
super COordinated Team.
But what I see all teh T's here (amaterurs and Good players not the best but of good enough quality to create an entertaining and challenging game) don't camp, and even if they do they do not have the patience to wait long. What I've noticed is that they mostly rush through the middle way and teh long CAUSEWAy to teh maarket place and hope to engage the Ct's there.

Thta's why I suggested the splitting up of groups 1 group contaning the specialised forces know as the
insertion group and teh other group called the
Counter assault group.

Like I said teh specialised group can easily punch through the Window cause any way Ct's reach there faster and we can hear the footsteps and flash around corners for safety , but we can reach teh house full strength.
The other group takes the left side into the storage like area with the barrells and all OR the market place and hold def. positions to hold off the enemy, or to kill them if possible. This give the Insertion group enough time to walk in get the hostages and walk out.

For details on the armaments of the insertion group look at the first post of this this thread.

T.Rex

Well i dont quite agree to the first few sentences u said coz sometimes i can be a player who can kill the whole enemy team and sometime i could die the first and not all the Ct's went ffirst it was only like 5 or 6 the others took some other route.

Well, the people we(Me, RolfSerrao) we play against can hardly be labelled Ameteurs, all they do is rush or a few smart buggers might take effective sniping postitions.
The maps in CS are designed for the CTs, Ts are expected to behave like themselves, 'empty headed lead sprays'.
The CTs must use the envoirnment to counter the terrorists. This is one reason Ts get an edge over CTs, especially in Cs_Italy.
We have developed an almost-perfect-plan for Dust, an effective one for Estate, a passable for Assault and now we come to Italy.
The only reason they got a lead was because they cheated. Everytime we start a new match, the server, most probably, types in some command, e.g. killallenemy, and we lose that round. So they always get a lead in finance. We lose the second round coz we aren't used to pistols v/s m5s. Is there any way a clint PC can prevent the server from doing such a thing, in a LAN?

Please explain what you said. to guess whoz back

IMV,
A big group is a liability because you are all more suseptible to grenades and flashbangs and rushes with AK's etc. 1 big grp is not the way, aMAYBE it is for the ELITE players for just for Good and very good players (like me, I'm not modest, in case u havn't noticed) 2 groups is usually the Answer. It gives you more Flexibility And if you move slowly through the house\window area, listening for footsteps walking against the wall even if T's come from there, they'll get screwed.

But if you believe otherwise, please do explain.

T.Rex

ps.
muhahahahahahahahahahahahha.

Actually the map gives T the adventage if they defend the proper location and NOT go charging at the T. The proper positions include on the stairs above the bridge, in the house window, and at corner looking at the door inside the other house (the CT window path). If T stay there and have decent aim, the T will win basically everytime. Flash dont work against good players because they hear the flash coming and avoid it (by looking away). Smoke doesnt work against anyone with good computers because you can see threw it.

Well,
I know that this is a Terrorist map. But that's what makes it more challenging donen it ??

ANyway, paigne, We arn't up against the BEST of the best , u know sorta above amateurs. I mean they know how to control the guns to a good extent and they understand how to use it, But they are morons in the planning Dept. They can't plan for peanuts.

SO please do give ideas for the GOOD players not the best.

SO that's why I picked the window route. Tell me HOW YOU WOULD USE THE WINDOW for your benefit ??
Also which way is better for my adssault Team the market or the WIne cellar ????

Anyway, In case u havn't noticed already Me and Heatseeker play together. he's usually the sniper(awp man)... He has yet to learn how to fire without the crosshair...(yesh rite)


But anyway, keep the ideas coming....
Where r all the people of the forum ???? I mean only 3 or 4 replied and are actively taking part in the discussions... C'mon.... I need the help... Next match is on THURSDAY.
IDEAS....PLEASE....


T.Rex

If im a CT coming out of the window, i would throw a smoke nade right outside the door incase someone is sniping the door. Of course while inside the house, be prepare to flash. Remember to get out of the door asap. Its so narrow that you become an easy kill when inside. Once you get out of the door, look around on the bridge to find any free kills from players that wander off. Also if you hear footstep behind you, jump off the bridge and try to sneak behind those Ts. If you hear nother, then chances are, they are either in the market place or camping the house.