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 Justin TimeFor Peace & Donuts
Neolithic    since: Jul 2005 |
 Oct 14, 07 at 9:00am |
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I was thinking of this, and I think it would be neat to have a "thumbs up" and "thumbs down" icon on each post, and a user may click on it to give the post a score of +1 or -1.
Now here's the real kicker before anyone starts complaining: the number should only be viewable by the poster, and it may be turned off in forum options. I think it is always nice to have feedback and see what kind of posts get good reception and which don't. Just putting it out there. ------------------- Awaiting Moderation | |
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R3sistance Time + Rumor = Legend
Neo or Bust    total posts: 7692 since: Mar 2002 |
 Oct 14, 07 at 10:20am |
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Hmmm, doesn't have the drawbacks of a Karma system if it's self-viewing only. The only thing I have against it, is that people may overly rate newbies down and discourage them from posting, else wise I am fairly neutral to this.
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Projekt tnw.smfforfree4.com
ultra seeker   total posts: 1485 since: Jun 2007 |
Oct 14, 07 at 11:17am |
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You mean like Youtube?
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The Deathwind is a bitter little internet man.
NeoXtreme  total posts: 8526 since: Jun 2006 |
Oct 14, 07 at 12:58pm |
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And GameGrep, I see.
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Sam Arsenal FC
Permanently Plugged In  total posts: 13152 since: Oct 2006 |
Oct 14, 07 at 1:10pm |
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The thing is even if nobody else can see it people who get loads of 'thumbs down' are still going to feel angered and unhappy, which may lead to them complaining and arguing over it with people. I mean usually if someone makes a good post, than I have actually seen people say it, therefore we don't need this. Also I feel that people will just ask for 'thumbs up' all the time and/or users will just hand them out for no reason just for the fun of it.
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(moderator) Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility [Wii] Loungin' Pokémon Diamond Battles Pokémon Diamond Clans Pokémon Diamond Trading Pokémon Diamond [DS]       total posts: 12294 neopoints: 134 since: Aug 2007 |
 Oct 14, 07 at 3:54pm |
quote Sam_P^ What he said. I support...but there is that big con that goes with this. People could easily abuse this, and you know they will. "LAWL HE SED I AM DUM THUMS DOUN" or "OMG HES MI FREND THUMS UP" or that sort of thing. But for those people who don't abuse it, I think this is a good idea. I'd like to know what people think about my posts - I usually put alot of work into what I say ((I'm weird XD)) and it'd be interesting to see if people like it or hate it. Final conclusion...I support. -------------------  This is Jeffrey; he's a dragon. A dancing dragon. | |
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DCRage Glorious Bastard
Into... Legend since: Oct 2003 |
Oct 14, 07 at 4:53pm |
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This sounds like that karma system suggestion.
quoteMy thoughts exactly. Very much against this. ------------------- My Blog-Sports, MMA, Girls, Etc.
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Master of the VG 7th Year
Seeketh Maximus    since: Jul 2001 |
 Oct 14, 07 at 5:07pm |
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To be honest, I haven't seen a site using a karma system in which the commentary system seems to work. Usually a majority of the posts are junk because people try to be funny to get some karma.
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Superfast Oz Neo or Bust
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Oct 14, 07 at 5:28pm |
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I would personally want to avoid any sort of rating system for posts, whether it's for public viewing or not. Members can have cliques or grudges and these will inevitably sway anything like this to the point that the results are irrelevant. More generally, it just seems a little pointless and I can't see too many people being interested in it.
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Evanster48 Take Crimson charm / 6 more options
Neolithic  total posts: 6447 since: Dec 2006 |
Oct 15, 07 at 1:45am |
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I'm in support as long as it's only self-viewing. But Oz, there is nothing wrong with GameGrep having a rating system but it's bad for Neo?
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Justin Time For Peace & Donuts
Neolithic since: Jul 2005 |
Oct 15, 07 at 2:03am |
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Well I know that people may abuse it, or take it too seriously, but I think that most people will just see it for what it is. Or turn it off.
I really like feedback, and I don't see this becoming a huge problem. Maybe it could default start as off so newbs aren't discouraged as you say, until they get experienced enough to learn how to turn it on or something. I can't really see people starting an argument over bad feedback though, only they can see it so it's not public humiliation, and the feedback is anonymous so they can't be sure who did it. ------------------- Awaiting Moderation | |
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Mishtram Busy IRL
(supermod)  neopoints: 5728 since: Dec 2005 |
Oct 15, 07 at 3:02am |
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The reason I was behind a Karma system (which is different than this, but I have a point) is that, from my point of view, any Karma system or such I would see on Neoseeker would have to be positive only, without the ability to give negative feedback. In the end, Karma is only there to make people feel better about themselves. Sure, I might not know that ACY3 has 40 points of Karma and Mandos has 55, but my 27 will make me feel a little better about surfing the net. When a negative gets involved, though, than it's just a way for people to "get back". I think, in every instance I've heard of people giving negative amounts of Karma, only twice was it done for a good reason.
I'm all for a more "self-moderated" userbase, but this just doesn't advance my own personal petty agenda. =) ------------------- People who claim others of hubris have a SCARY trend of having it themselves...
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GuardianGriffen Adapt Improvise Overcome
true seeker (2K Remix)   since: Mar 2006 |
 Oct 15, 07 at 3:20am |
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Who can vote in this system?
How often can they vote? Who can use this system? ^Those effect how well this would work out. If you only can vote on 3 peoples posts per day you will not be able to spam the feature. User based Karma systems depend on the individual member who participates in them. How much stock can you put in them? We already have a similar system for user reviews. Unlike forum posts, user reviews have a purpose that can be easily determined. Example: People might not understand what the person is talking about. This will influence if they like what you have to say. You might as well open it up to a multiple choice selection. a - Like  b - Dislike  c - Understand d - Don't understand  What kind of system resources would this require? I can't see myself getting to enthralled with this feature. Would the demand for this feature be a big enough reward for its cost? If a fewer number of people had access to this would it take up fewer system resources? The people who are forthcoming with their opinions are not the ones I need another feature to hear about. Those people already respond in PMs and in the thread itself. The key aspects of this feature are secrecy, speed, and summary feedback. It is secret because no one knows who is voting and only one person knows the results. It is fast because it could only take a click or two to do. It gives summary feedback, avoiding hostilities. Negative feedback isn't always bad. The extent some people take their feedback can be bad. If someone gets negative feedback, perhaps that will encourage them to figure out why they are getting negative feedback. ------------------- RFS: part of the solution. Do-it-yourself Americans stand up and be counted. | |
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Justin Time For Peace & Donuts
Neolithic since: Jul 2005 |
Oct 15, 07 at 4:10am |
quote MishtramYou bring a good point, but negative feedback is really just as useful as positive for me atleast. But we could even adapt it to conform with your ideas, only allowing positive feedback. Then you can judge your post by ones with high amounts and ones with low or none. But I really prefer my idea of being able to know when people do not like my posts either. quote GuardianGriffenI've thought about this, and here's my first idea: 1. Only registered users 2. Once per a post 3. Any poster, since it is a post by post basis We can change it up if huge flaws are in this layout though. quote GuardianGriffenI'd have to say we just vote whether we like it or not, and let the Neo peoples worry about whether it is worth implementing with their system resources.  I don't like my idea being grouped with other "karma systems" that have been brought up in the past, because mine focuses on post by post basis and self improvement rather then some popularity total. ------------------- Awaiting Moderation | |
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GuardianGriffen Adapt Improvise Overcome
true seeker (2K Remix) since: Mar 2006 |
Oct 20, 07 at 8:14pm |
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The entire system seems to be based on having hidden information that each member can exclusively see....
quote Justin time... Can't you have both? You can select to only see positive or to see all feedback cumulative in addition to the default selection of disabling the feature. If the feature is disabled, there is no reason to allow people to vote on posts from that user. ------------------- RFS: part of the solution. Do-it-yourself Americans stand up and be counted. | |
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