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Oct 28, 09 at 8:51pm
Going to Build (now I AM going to build)

Ok. Before I build, does these things make a computer fast:

Hgih RAM
Network Card (for internet)
Hard Drive (is Hard Drive Disk the same thing as Hard Drive)?
CD/DVD Drive
Processor - Im thinking to put intel celeron quad processor (whatever the name is).

And the thing that I'm worried about is the case. If I buy a case then will it support and hold the motherboard that I am going to buy? And what the chances of that not happening?


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Oct 28, 09 at 9:06pm
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What's your budget?
Are you going to be gaming or is it just normal usage like internet and word processing?

FAST ram makes a computer faster, Having more ram than needed, like having 12gb is unnecessary and will not help you. Most people can easily go for 4gb without giving up any performance. What you want to look at though is the MHZ and timings (should look something like 5-5-5-15 to 9-9-9-27)

You will not need a network card as motherboards come with onboard network ports. Buying one will not give you any boost in performance.

Yes, hard drive and hard drive disk are the same thing. HDD is the abreviation for either.

Your cd/dvd drive will not affect your performance but it will determine how fast you can install games from a cd or dvd.

As for a processor, if you're doing any kind of gaming a celeron is the last kind of processor you want, it is only for the very low end computer. Intel currently only makes core2quad, i5, and i7 branded quad core processors.

If you are gaming the two items that have the biggest affect on performance is your processor and your video card. Having a low end processor will usually limit a high end video card and a high end processor with a low end video card will not have as much detail in the games and will get low framerates.

For a case the best choice is usually a mid tower ATX case. You can have a full tower case but it's unnecessary unless you have an extreme system, or very big hands as it allows for more room to work in. Mid tower ATX cases usually hold both M-atx and ATX motherboards but be sure to check and make absolutely sure. M-atx and ATX are the most common consumer motherboards.


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Oct 28, 09 at 9:17pm
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well.... my budget is approx £200-£500 and I need it to have good performence (approx 2.5-3GHz)



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Oct 28, 09 at 9:39pm
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you didnt have to make another thread for this mate. did you post all this before or after seeing the hardware list in your other thread? on the second page.



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Oct 28, 09 at 9:44pm
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ok. This is what I have so far:

Internal Memory (£35):
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1811719015.1256759599@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadeijjmmlekcflgceggdhhmdfho.0&page=Product&sku=253747

LG DVD Drive (£20)http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1811719015.1256759599@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadeijjmmlekcflgceggdhhmdfho.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=370898&category_oid=-24858#productInformationSection


320GB Hard Drive (£40)http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1811719015.1256759599@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadeijjmmlekcflgceggdhhmdfho.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=070583&category_oid=

PC Case (Looking for cheaper ones)
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1811719015.1256759599@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadeijjmmlekcflgceggdhhmdfho.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=737057&category_oid=-28015


Power Supply (£30)http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1811719015.1256759599@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadeijjmmlekcflgceggdhhmdfho.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=853901&category_oid=

NVidia 7600 (£60)http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1811719015.1256759599@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadeijjmmlekcflgceggdhhmdfho.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=108923&category_oid=-28009

USB Ports (£10)
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1811719015.1256759599@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadeijjmmlekcflgceggdhhmdfho.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=401723&category_oid=







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you didnt have to make another thread for this mate. did you post all this before or after seeing the hardware list in your other thread? on the second page.
I posted this before seeing it.


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Oct 28, 09 at 9:45pm
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EDIT: Forgot about the motherboard and processor. I can't find them on pcworld.co.uk, i know i can check at other stores but they dont have it.

EDIT: Just found them.. a bit expensive I suppose...

Motherboard and Processor bundle:
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1811719015.1256759599@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadeijjmmlekcflgceggdhhmdfho.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=521580&category_oid=-28009

is this intel celeron or intel celeron dual processor?


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Oct 28, 09 at 9:50pm
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scrap the USB ports. your motherboard already has some.



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Oct 28, 09 at 9:52pm
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quote hiigaran
scrap the USB ports. your motherboard already has some.
ok. but i want a intel celeron quad processor but cant find it. Would the processor above be fast enough?


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Oct 28, 09 at 10:16pm
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thats because there is no such thing as a celeron quad core. and you will get more performance for your price by going for AMD. the processor i linked in the other thread is a great processor in terms of performance to price.


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Oct 28, 09 at 10:30pm
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ok. bth, which one do you think is worth the money? the packard bell or making the computer with the above things (as for the game card, i dont care)


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Oct 28, 09 at 10:56pm
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building, do doubt about it. that computer has no video card so they escape payments there, and are able to put in a cheaper and weaker power supply too. all that money is simply markup.



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Oct 28, 09 at 11:03pm
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ok. So should I use the processor and motherboard you recommend to me or just use the one I found in pcworld? Btw, does more memory on the HDD make it more faster and is 320gb enough for a fast computer?


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Oct 28, 09 at 11:04pm
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quote hiigaran
thats because there is no such thing as a celeron quad core.
There is a thing called that (along those lines) I'll try to find a link for you


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Oct 28, 09 at 11:05pm
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as mentioned numerous times, more hard disk space does not affect performance. and neither does more RAM (memory) if your computer doesnt need it.

regarding the hard drive, i cant say for sure how much you need because its different for different people. what habits do you have? do you download movies or games? do you have a lot of photos or videos?


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