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Topic: Eternally Homeless!?
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Oct 10, 08 at 1:55pm
Eternally Homeless!?

So I just now learned that you have to have proof of residency to get a job. That means that you can't get a job if you don't have a house. So if you're homeless, you're gonna STAY that way. This is a big deal! A big big deal! The poor are STUCK that way!
So what I'm wondering is...

WHY aren't we rioting? This seems like a big enough of a deal to blow random stuff up and vandalize public property in angry protest! I can't possibly be the only one pissed off about this! Why aren't we rioting at local law enforcement? Why aren't we campaigning and picketing and organizing boycotts of American-made products? We should be doing everything in our power to force the government to get rid of the "proof of residence" standard! We should be tying up IRS collection agents at town square so passerby can throw tomatoes at them! We should use any means necessary to get rid of that horrible restriction that prevents the homeless from making money to get a home! We should be stopping at nothing, and yet we're doing nothing! WHY are we doing nothing!?

Sure you can get a place of "residence" to stay at if you have family or friends who'll take you in, but some people's entire families are homeless, and good luck making friends when you can't shave or bathe!

So to state my question again, WHY aren't we doing anything about this? WHY is my topic the first angry topic on the subject?



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Oct 10, 08 at 1:58pm
re: Eternally Homeless!?

Because the US is capitalist.

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Oct 10, 08 at 1:59pm
re: Eternally Homeless!?

Because thats how things are.



Better question, Mr. Wootsavage, why aren't YOU rioting? How about, instead of complaining to us, you try and reform things. Join a few agency's. Try to change things, run for office.

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Oct 10, 08 at 2:01pm
re: Eternally Homeless!?

There are shelters for homeless,I guess they can get a few small jobs there and when they save up they can buy a house.



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Oct 10, 08 at 2:09pm
re: Eternally Homeless!?

quote Strawberryclock
Because thats how things are.



Better question, Mr. Wootsavage, why aren't YOU rioting? How about, instead of complaining to us, you try and reform things. Join a few agency's. Try to change things, run for office.
A 17 year old can't run for office, and I'm TRYING to get you guys as pissed off as me. I can't get the laws changed all by myself. So why aren't YOU rioting?

And if you call me Wootsavage one more time, I'll report you. My solutions for America's problems are violent because violence WORKS, and the best way to fight evil is by PUNISHING it. If that makes me a savage, then I'm the most logical savage who ever lived.



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Oct 10, 08 at 2:10pm
re: Eternally Homeless!?

Oh God, what did I start.

Most employers want staff they see as responsible and reliable and I guess homeless people don't quite fit the mold of the ideal employee.



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re: Eternally Homeless!?

quote w00tageseven
vandalize public property

We are, there is plenty of graffiti by the homeless in some big cities



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Oct 10, 08 at 2:12pm
re: Eternally Homeless!?

quote Sniggit
Oh God, what did I start.

Most employers want staff they see as responsible and reliable and I guess homeless people don't quite fit the mold of the ideal employee.

People who believe those kinds of stereotypes should be shot. (Not killed, just shot. Y'know, in the leg or something.) If anything, the homeless are MORE ideal, because people who NEED the job tend to work harder.



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Oct 10, 08 at 2:19pm
re: Eternally Homeless!?

quote w00tageseven
People who believe those kinds of stereotypes should be shot. (Not killed, just shot. Y'know, in the leg or something.) If anything, the homeless are MORE ideal, because people who NEED the job tend to work harder.
That's a bit of a flawed logic.
I'm not going to make the generalization that all homeless people are homeless because of their own fault (because there are many cases where it happened due to circumstances beyond their control), but Sniggit hit the nail on the head with his comment. There are many homeless people who are in that situation because they were irresponsible or didn't work hard enough when they needed to, so what incentive does the employer have to hire this individual?



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Oct 10, 08 at 2:22pm
re: Eternally Homeless!?

It's actually false. Only big corporations enforce that rule that you need to have a residency to get a job. Little companies don't often care.


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Oct 10, 08 at 2:22pm
re: Eternally Homeless!?

This isn't just the case in the US.

It's up the employer to hire who they see as the best candidate - having an address means that the person can be tracked down if, say, they abscond with anything.

I think some places might accept the address of a youth hostel, and many people could get away with using a relative's address. And then there's the Big Issue, which allows homeless people to make a bit of cash, and hopefully safe up enough to find somewhere to live.

In the UK, we also have government assisted housing.




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Oct 10, 08 at 2:28pm
re: Eternally Homeless!?

quote w00tageseven
And if you call me Wootsavage one more time, I'll report you. My solutions for America's problems are violent because violence WORKS, and the best way to fight evil is by PUNISHING it. If that makes me a savage, then I'm the most logical savage who ever lived.
Lol you cant report someone for mis-spelling your name.

And no using violence is the WORST way to deal with ANYTHING.

The police would just get riot police in, and if it was REALLY bad the millitary would be called in.

Then you would be arrested and sent to jail, Your council will have to pay for repairs which means less can be spent on other things etc, You would be regarded as a violent convict and everyone will get on with their lives as normal.


You cant fight your government with violence.



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Oct 10, 08 at 2:33pm
re: Eternally Homeless!?

quote slumpy monkey
And no using violence is the WORST way to deal with ANYTHING.
Well, that's not quite true either. You can't have a coup d’état to overthrow an oppressive totalitarian government without using some violence.



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Oct 10, 08 at 2:36pm
re: Eternally Homeless!?

quote VulcanRaven
quote slumpy monkey
And no using violence is the WORST way to deal with ANYTHING.
Well, that's not quite true either. You can't have a coup d’état to overthrow an oppressive totalitarian government without using some violence.
DON'T ENCOURAGE HIM!!!



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Oct 10, 08 at 2:52pm
re: Eternally Homeless!?

quote w00tageseven
quote Sniggit
Oh God, what did I start.

Most employers want staff they see as responsible and reliable and I guess homeless people don't quite fit the mold of the ideal employee.

People who believe those kinds of stereotypes should be shot. (Not killed, just shot. Y'know, in the leg or something.) If anything, the homeless are MORE ideal, because people who NEED the job tend to work harder.
"Don't call me W00tsavage"
"LETS SHOOT THOSE BASTARDS!"

Its not an inaccurate stereotype that homeless people are lazy, if they where intelligent or active they wouldn't be on the streets. A homeless person can very easily work their way back up to earning a living, most just choose not to.



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