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Oct 11, 09 at 6:27am
re: What do you have against God?

quote JammerJaw
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And what proof do you have that the bible is proof other than the bible saying it's the truth?
Soda, it's flying right over your head, but you're not catching it.

FAITH
It's flying over your head. He's not ignoring faith, this is his response to those who say the bible is proof of the christian God.
Basically, I could write a clearly fictional work with both common sense and scientific truths being defied and then proclaim it to be non-ficton, like people have with the bible (and works like His Dark Materials and Harry Potter don't contradict themselves as much)


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re: What do you have against God?

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quote Kjgmusic
quote Halo_Asassin
So you believe that someone should recieve infinite, as in neverending punishment for doing something god, a being who wasn't even kind enough to leave us some evidence of his existence, does not want them to do?
If there is a God, and he left us proof of his existence, wouldn't that kind of defeat the purpose of faith?
Yes, and then maybe more people would believe in him. Y'know, cause of the evidence and logic that would support him.

Faith is a idiotic concept. Believing in something without any proof of it. To quote George Carlin, "What are you, *bleep*ing stupid?"

Love, and having a relationship with someone, also involves faith and trust. Faith that while you're asleep at night, your significant other isn't going to kill you. Faith that you aren't going to be betrayed. Faith that the other person will always keep your best intentions at heart, while you make yourself vulnerable to keep his/her best intentions at heart. Are you calling anyone who lets himself fall in love *bleep*ing stupid?

I realize this isn't the same issue we are dealing with here, and that it is tangential, but it is exactly the same principal. Also, if you are an atheist, you still have faith. Faith = believing something without proof. Atheism = believing that there is no God. There is no proof that there is no God, just as there is no proof that there is a God. It's just faith in the complete opposite direction.


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Oct 11, 09 at 6:28am
re: What do you have against God?

quote Halo_Asassin

Faith is a idiotic concept. Believing in something without any proof of it. To quote George Carlin, "What are you, *bleep*ing stupid?"

Faith is partially what makes the world go round. The way I see it, it's a pretty damn viable concept. There's all those people out there who would be doing unspeakable/unguessable things would it not be for faith.

And also, I believe almost every person, at one point in their life, uses faith whether it may be down to the simplest thing or not. Can be about religion, paranormal/supernatural shit, love, friendship, and so on.


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Oct 11, 09 at 6:28am
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Religion is a joke and flawed... what more has to be said? It's just a good way of keeping the masses in line, promising them a better life so you can give them crap in this one and they'll accept it because they're stupid enough to. At the end of the day, religion is a business.

Don't get me wrong, there are some morals and philosophies which have been brought to the table by religion which are good. But the concepts and whatnot are hilarious to say the least.

The only time I could ever imagine anyone intelligently embracing religion would be on their deathbed, just to be safe.

you see that last sentence makes them more pathetic then the people who believe all there life.

I personally think the world would be boring without religion and fantasy.


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Oct 11, 09 at 6:31am
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quote Chaos91
I personally think the world would be boring without religion and fantasy.
I loved that. I for one, believe in a God but consider myself religion-less. I also hold on science very frequently, and I think that the fact that both exist make life worth to live. At the end, many people live for researching this things: scientists, and teologists. I find it interesting because we really don't know anything compared to what we could know. And if we knew the answer to everything, even the real reason behind love, then there wouldn't be a reason to live for everyone.

GG with that sentence, Chaos91.


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Oct 11, 09 at 6:32am
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quote JammerJaw
1. This is Adam's fault for eating that damn apple.
Blame Eve. This is also why women's rights were unheard of for a long time and we made them stay in the kitchen. Us men were still butthurt.


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Oct 11, 09 at 6:33am
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quote Vermillion
quote Chaos91
I personally think the world would be boring without religion and fantasy.
I loved that. I for one, believe in a God but consider myself religion-less. I also hold on science very frequently, and I think that the fact that both exist make life worth to live. At the end, many people live for researching this things: scientists, and teologists. I find it interesting because we really don't know anything compared to what we could know. And if we knew the answer to everything, even the real reason behind love, then there wouldn't be a reason to live for everyone.

GG with that sentence, Chaos91.
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Oct 11, 09 at 6:35am
re: What do you have against God?

quote Kjgmusic
quote Halo_Asassin
quote Kjgmusic
quote Halo_Asassin
So you believe that someone should recieve infinite, as in neverending punishment for doing something god, a being who wasn't even kind enough to leave us some evidence of his existence, does not want them to do?
If there is a God, and he left us proof of his existence, wouldn't that kind of defeat the purpose of faith?
Yes, and then maybe more people would believe in him. Y'know, cause of the evidence and logic that would support him.

Faith is a idiotic concept. Believing in something without any proof of it. To quote George Carlin, "What are you, *bleep*ing stupid?"

Love, and having a relationship with someone, also involves faith and trust. Faith that while you're asleep at night, your significant other isn't going to kill you. Faith that you aren't going to be betrayed. Faith that the other person will always keep your best intentions at heart, while you make yourself vulnerable to keep his/her best intentions at heart. Are you calling anyone who lets himself fall in love *bleep*ing stupid?

I realize this isn't the same issue we are dealing with here, and that it is tangential, but it is exactly the same principal. Also, if you are an atheist, you still have faith. Faith = believing something without proof. Atheism = believing that there is no God. There is no proof that there is no God, just as there is no proof that there is a God. It's just faith in the complete opposite direction.
You're right. I worded that wrong. Please allow me to alter what I should have said.

Running your life based on faith is an idiotic concept.

I do indeed have faith there is no god. However, I don't run my life based on the idea of there being no god.


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Oct 11, 09 at 6:36am
re: What do you have against God?

More like, what do you have in favor of some non-intelligible being?

I don't have anything against believers until they start bringing it up like it actually matters.



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Oct 11, 09 at 6:39am
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quote Halo_Asassin
You're right. I worded that wrong. Please allow me to alter what I should have said.

Running your life based on faith is an idiotic concept.

I do indeed have faith there is no god. However, I don't run my life based on the idea of there being no god.
that's a bit of enlightenment there.


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Oct 11, 09 at 6:40am
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quote Kjgmusic
Love, and having a relationship with someone, also involves faith and trust. Faith that while you're asleep at night, your significant other isn't going to kill you. Faith that you aren't going to be betrayed.
I will concede emotions aren't entirly logical and it is emotions that lead to relationships etc. However, faith is unjustified belief, and someone never having killed anyone in their sleep before is evidence (albeit not conclusive evidence) that they shan't do the same to you. Other observations can be made about character to determine the likelihood of betrayal or getting sleepdeathed. We can't observe the authors of the bible and analyse their characters and intentions, nor can we vouch for the truth of the events. Whilst it is also true that, in most cases, the events cannot be disproven either, the fact that there are millions of possibilities for so many things yet only one can apply should be a good indicator that by not believing things which you have no reason to believe in, you are going to be right far more often than if you blindly believe in anything. Furthermore, if you believe everything, you won't be able to recognise proof/evidence when you see it.


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Oct 11, 09 at 8:04am
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I have nothing against God. I love Him and nothing can stop me from doing so. He is my Creator, Savior, and Redeemer. I love Him



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Oct 11, 09 at 8:11am
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Nothing wrong with God. The religion itself is pretty awesome and it's super interesting when there are findings that says that some events described in the Bible might have actually happened. But people use the name of God, twist the meanings of the Bible, and use it for their power. Or there are believers who believe just for the sake of having somewhere to belong in or talk about. That's what I'm against.


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Oct 11, 09 at 8:24am
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I don't got a religion and I don't really care if there is a god or multiple gods because it does not affect me one way or another. On the same token, I don't really care if somebody else believes in a god/multiple gods or don't believe. However, if someone starts preaching their beliefs to me, it'll get annoying and I'll tell them to shut up with their preaching. If they want me to respect their religious beliefs they better respect the lack of mine.


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what the hell are you on about brownsrock? Plus the Adam and Eve story is BS if you ask me since god put the serpent there knowing that it would tempt Eve to eat the fruit. Plus what is it about Jesus Christ dieing for your sins? Can anyone explain to me how that even makes sense?


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