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Aug 16, 04 at 10:35am
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quote Mr Viper
And Marshmallow and CDemon, you guys are bickering like children and not making any sense.
How do I not make any sense? I said the same friggin' thing you did. And then, Marshmallow guy asked a stupid question, and I answered it.
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Well I kinda take a middle stance on this one. Battery Farming is wrong, Animals aren't designed to live in such small and appualing conditions. If they do have to resort to use factories they could atleast give them the space too walk around I mean High-rise the freaking building might cost more but more space, happier animals, better production.

Free range I am all for and most free range animals certainly do seem to look better and that. Most people go on about the slaughter methods being cruel and terrible. But apart from lobster the animal are usually knocked out with a quick electric charge before they are killed so are not in relisation of pain.

Also most animals aren't as self aware as humans and their reactions to pain are like you computers reactions to you typing on a keyboard. Most don't relise the emotion of pain like us humans do. We make out pain to be MORE then it is because we are self aware and understand pain to well.

Also what would kill them else wise if not us? predators... well they would put alot of pain on animals, more then most of our methods do. Disease? I don't even think I need to comment on that one. Simply put most animals will not just drop down dead they will suffer as will alot of us when we die, it's the way things go and nothing can be done about it.


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Aug 16, 04 at 12:19pm
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If we weren't ment to eat meat then why did God make them so tasty?



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Aug 16, 04 at 12:29pm
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quote Darknet
If we weren't ment to eat meat then why did God make them so tasty?
If you read the bible what, ok I haven't but I know of the stories in it. Adam and Eve were forbidden to eat the meat of animals, they were only allowed to eat fruit. This stayed on until Noah came along. God asked Noah to save 2 of each animal. He said to Noah if he did this in return he would grant Humans the right to eat the meat of the animals.

It doesn't say about why they taste so good tho.


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Incase you haven't noticed, the human population has kind of grown a lot. This leaves us with 2 options:
  1. Farm Intensively
  2. Widespread Famine




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quote Ren of Heavens
Incase you haven't noticed, the human population has kind of grown a lot. This leaves us with 2 options:
  1. Farm Intensively
  2. Widespread Famine
one thing tho... we have both. Most of the stuff goes to the richer countries. but if we shared better what we have instead of stuffing ourselfs with like 8 times more food then we need world hunger would probably be less of a problem... But also say if you toke a feild, you built a building 5 stories higher there, you put solar panels on top, you but earth in it and use mirror to get sun light into every level.

You could have better solution then battery farming is today but people are too greedy and won't do it because they only thinking of their pockets instead of long term. It's not as like their are people out their who don't have the money, quite a few do... but people just don't care... sigh.

Still that would sort out both problems now... but neither will be done until a reason for the greedy to do so is found...


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Aug 16, 04 at 2:33pm
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i watched the first 5 seconds of it and new what it would be like. its totally sick!



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Aug 16, 04 at 2:47pm
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quote Marshmallow Guy
They dont' feel pain!

How do you know that everything in that video is true
  • They feel pain
  • i seriously doubt those piglets were actors

    i eat meat, always have, always will. But i know its bullshit what they do to the animals, i mean, they could just put them to sleep first, or... something... well i don't know but they really should do something IMO


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    Aug 16, 04 at 2:49pm
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    putting them to sleep would cost a hell of alot of money, do u think farmers want to spend their money on that?



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    That's true...



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    quote Phsyc0
    they could just put them to sleep first
    If you did that, the drugs would remain in the body after they are killed, then when we eat them we'd get a dose of sedatives.


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    Aug 16, 04 at 2:56pm
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    yeah i was going to say that too. the film is true, and i have actually seen animals being treated poorly around where i live. ofcourse nothing compared with that film, but it was still bad.



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    Aug 16, 04 at 3:12pm
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    quote R3sistance
    It doesn't say why they taste so good though.
    Maybe God made 'em taste good at the beginning of the flood.

    What those farmers do to those chickens in that video should be stopped.


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    Aug 16, 04 at 3:26pm
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    That's like, one meaningful video out of a thousand crap ones from PETA...



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    Aug 16, 04 at 3:27pm
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    quote Phantasy_Lord
    EDIT: And Marshmellow Guy, shut the *bleep* up, you're not funny. These animals are force fed more food than they can handle, and are cramped into tiny cages their entire lives... don't give me that "it's paradise" bullshit, grow up
    No. You shut the *bleep* up. He's right. I'm not sure about chickens but with cows, it's a good life. You get all the free food you want, you get good company, no politically correct bullshit or pop music shoved down their throats, and they get their heads chopped off painlessly, and don't have to worry about old age.

    Why do you vegetarians and shit always bitch about cruelty to animals? You're only pissing off the people who like meat. I don't know how anyone can go through their life without meat, infact, it almost sickens me. You cannot honestly tell me, that any of you vegetarians haven't secretly wanted to take just one more bite out of that perfectly cooked, steamy, juicy piece of steak.

    And what the *bleep* will all this bitching accomplish? It's not like you're going to convince the government that killing and eating animals is illegal. That's *bleep*ing bullshit. I will not live my life eating tofu and other disgusting bullshit for the rest of my life.

    Read this or die.


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