whenever berethor goes i don't fear them i fear no-one and runs off like a panzy i get like 6 attacks then the troll/orcs keep atttacking till I die this happens every time can anyone shed some light on this situation?

quote kookoobananas

whenever berethor goes i don't fear them i fear no-one and runs off like a panzy i get like 6 attacks then the troll/orcs keep atttacking till I die this happens every time can anyone shed some light on this situation?

aight sorry i'm at the part where i just finish the gatefight with aragorn and everyone is retreating i have berethor elegost and hadhod in my party so while everyone runs crying into the keep berethor says i fear BLAH BLAH and fights them i get a few turns where i attack then the enemies attack me till i am dead, It may be because my party is weak i really only focused on berethor and his swordcraft BIG MISTAKE,

I started again now barathor has citadel rage and everything below it in that column andcounter attack I have all the leaderships upto and including fellowship grace on Idrial i have aura of the valar gift of galadriel and all the other lower lvl skills

for Hadhod i have mountain shield the two basic skills some other skills and am workin on damaging shield

sorry elegost maybe you should go sulk in the corner (he's not involved really)

I'm currently at the troll huntin' part in moria, So any tips on what skills i should get and anything else i need to know?

(hope that's enough info)

quote kookoobananas

aight sorry i'm at the part where i just finish the gatefight with aragorn and everyone is retreating i have berethor elegost and hadhod in my party so while everyone runs crying into the keep berethor says i fear BLAH BLAH and fights them i get a few turns where i attack then the enemies attack me till i am dead, It may be because my party is weak i really only focused on berethor and his swordcraft BIG MISTAKE,

I started again now barathor has citadel rage and everything below it in that column andcounter attack I have all the leaderships upto and including fellowship grace on Idrial i have aura of the valar gift of galadriel and all the other lower lvl skills

for Hadhod i have mountain shield the two basic skills some other skills and am workin on damaging shield

sorry elegost maybe you should go sulk in the corner (he's not involved really)

I'm currently at the troll huntin' part in moria, So any tips on what skills i should get and anything else i need to know?

(hope that's enough info)

ok thanks i'll try that:D

No no no, don't bother training Idrial's sword craft, Just learn Power of the Valar, then keep gong straight down till you learn Water Stallion like I did

Don't bother with the elfstones of Nimble Crafting, Lightcrafting and Fell Shadow; they are totally useless!

Keep training Bow Skills ONLY for Elegost, to eventually learn True Shot, which can deal over 10,000 damage even to the most heavily-armored bosses! I got through Helms' Deep VERY easily with mostly Elegost's Bow Skills and Hadhod's 2 skills Flames of Ruin and Mountain Shield (make sure he is equipped with a cracked elfstone of spirit enhancement, and so is Idrial )

NEVER use morwen - she is weak, had low armor AND low power, and takes ages to level up!

Make sure Berethor has the best power, keep training his strength ONLY (except for dexterity occassionally), and has AT LEAST Ecthelion Wrath (or targeted strike if you have constantly traned him, it is very good against Trolls ) and Stand Fast (Uruk Berserkers and Troll Swordmen/Hammermen stun quite often) - use these and you will win no problem, I did this all today so I know how to do it

ok i like those ideas better cuz i hate morwen the moron and i also hate nimble crafting and fell shadow lol

quote kookoobananas

ok i like those ideas better cuz i hate morwen the moron and i also hate nimble crafting and fell shadow lol

The thing is:
Why use morwen when Berethor and Hadhod are so much stronger, accurate, have better defense and health, and are easier to train?
Why have fear when you can kill most enemies in one attack, and it doesn't work on bosses?
Why have nimble crafting when you can just use Eaoden and Idrial, and gain SP Spirit Power in the process?
Why train all that junk, when you can just train Berethor and Elegost to learn True Shot and Gondorian Rampage by travelling and still beat the game really easily with those two attacks?
And lastly, Sauron is no problem at all if you have a Morgul Decay item with you, and both of those two attacks!

quote SpaceWalker

The thing is:
Why use morwen when Berethor and Hadhod are so much stronger, accurate, have better defense and health, and are easier to train?
Why have fear when you can kill most enemies in one attack, and it doesn't work on bosses?
Why have nimble crafting when you can just use Eaoden and Idrial, and gain SP Spirit Power in the process?
Why train all that junk, when you can just train Berethor and Elegost to learn True Shot and Gondorian Rampage by travelling and still beat the game really easily with those two attacks?
And lastly, Sauron is no problem at all if you have a Morgul Decay item with you, and both of those two attacks!

1) cloak of the plains is for wimps who are afraid of fighting IMO, go and fight like a man! (unless you are a girl of course )

2) If you are like me, you won't need potios for health and action because you will have plenty of action items already and idrial can heal health fully anyway

3) Berethor, Hadhod and Eaoden have more powerful melee attacks than Morwen.

4) Idrial and Eaoden have better Spirit Skills than Morwen.

5) Idrial, Elegost and Hadhod have far better spirit attacks than Morwen. (does she even HAVE any spirit attacks at all?)

6) Fear is not needed at all unless you are really bad at fighting properly, and IMO it is practically useless.

7) Just about all the other Fell Shadow skills can be used / are very similar to attacks used by characters in the normal course of play, such as Wheel of Fire (just like flames of ruin), Cripple (elegost and hadhod both have crippling attacks) and Blinding Light (Elegost has 2 types of blinding attacks)

c'mon spacewalker lay off lordtyger he's only trying to help

whaddya mean, lay off him? I'm trying to help too, we are both just giving our opinions (maybe I'm giving mine too strongly? )

quote SpaceWalker

whaddya mean, lay off him? I'm trying to help too, we are both just giving our opinions (maybe I'm giving mine too strongly? )

I just decide at the start of each new game which skill trees I am gong to attempt to complete, then work on them as much as I can, often travelling to get them trained as early as possible
For instance, on the game I recently completed, I made it my aim to learn (and DID learn before the end) Gondorian Rampage, Flames of Ruin (nearly got dragon calling, not quite though ), True Shot and Water Stallion
On my new game, my aim is to learn Gondorian Rampage, Mountain Hewer, Northern Storm and Rampage of Helm

I might use your strategy too, and train Morwen this time too, to get at least here axe craft skills up to see how strong she can become later in the game I am only just starting Eastern Moria though, so long way to go before I get her