Is impossible surely? I've still only been able to B rank the damn mission, I can't even get it to an A rank let alone get it to an S rank which is my ultimate goal, S ranking all missions. The problem is not the first part of the mission, or even the first half of the Arkham fight. The problem is the second half of the Arkham fight. I just take ridiculous amounts of damage because there's no Devil Trigger. How in the *bleep* fo you avoid the red missiles that he fires at you? I kid you not, at one point he fired 5 at once and that's damn impossible to avoid all of them.

Before anyone says it, yeah I do have a second person controlling Vergil during this part of the fight and he knows what he's doing, the problem is solely in avoiding the red missiles, does anyone have a sure-fire technique for avoiding 3+ of them? When Arkham turns yellow and fires 2 of them I can avoid it, but I can't really avoid 3 let alone the ridiculous 5 he fired at me. This is the only mission I have left on B rank and it's pissing me off and I've narrowed down the problem to avoiding the red missiles he fires at you. My best damage for this mission something like 50'000 and that's what's stopping me from getting the A and ultimately S rank on this mission.

I've not made a study of this fight, but off the top of my head, I'd consider seeing if the missiles are destructible, if so you might be able to shoot at least some of them down and dodge the rest. Failing this, how often does this usually take place in a fight? If its not too many times before you kill him, perhaps you could resort to using a Holy Water, as it makes you invincible during the activation animation, if I remember right. Err, standing back and letting Vergil do the work might give you more room to dodge, but that relies on you reading a telegraph for the attack or being able to predict it.

That's all I've got for now, good luck though buddy .

I'm reluctant to use Holy Waters at all during this fight. To S rank this mission I need to get either 3 S and 2 A or 4 S and a B. The time I can S rank, that's no problem, because of Royal Guard I can get my style points and orbs at an S. But the damage is the big thing and I'm not confident at keeping that at the A rank (which I don't know the limit of) so I don't want to use any Items during this mission if I can help it as I think one item will instantly drop me down to an A rank for that and 3 S, an A and a B will only get me an A rank overall.

As far as I can tell, he uses the missiles when you are far away. The problem is that when he hits you, you get knocked away. Then he fires missiles, which keeps you away when you invariably get hit, and that process repeats until you fluke a dodge or Vergil damage him enough to retreat. I've not tried destroying the missiles, but I've not accidentally ever locked onto them.

I mean, FFS, I just SS ranked this mission on Hard earlier, yet I can only B rank it on DMD mode. Bullshit. As I said, the only issue with this mission is Arkham part 2, I don't need any advice on any other part of the mission, not even the wolves, purely the Dante/Vergil v Arkham part of the mission.

LOL, wolves? You mean his minions? I've heard them called dolphins, squid, and now wolves, and probably some other things I can't think of.

As for this general problem, well, its not exactly original, but you could try ending part one of the fight with the biggest bang possible, like a DT Explosion full Just Release, hopefully it could shorten part 2, any chance of that working ?

I doubt that works. When playing Heaven or Hell mode, when you hit him once he loses all his life, but still comes back for Part 2 of the fight with a half health bar, similar thing with Geryon on the bridge when you fall to the arena, so unfortunately that strategy is unlikely to work.

And the issue isn't causing damage, it's avoiding taking damage, namely the red missiles.

you could just use Super Dante Quicksilver - this baby has become my best friend in getting me SS ranks in all modes (exc easy).

Otherwise you need to buff up your RG timing.

I honestly can't see how anyone can SS rank this mission either - for me the main problem is getting past the enemies that constantly renew themselves when the hourglass has expired

I just told you that I'm having trouble with the second part of the fight, where you cannot use Devil Trigger. Having played through the game yourself you should also remember that the styles do not work there either.

he makes a moaning sound before throwing the missiles. hear it, and then back yourself off and start jumping around like a kangaroo till theyre out of sight, then get back to pounding his ass.

That's not really a specific piece of advice because I've been jumping around trying to avoid them, but that simply doesn't work when there's 3 or more of them flying at you. I try using Helm Hammer close up so that a couple of them fly way away from where I am but I usually end up getting hit by one.

i find it hard to believe anyone can SS rank this mission. can you give us proof that you actually scored top rank in this mission without super dante?

how did you get past the hourglass stage of the level? i find it impossible to get past this because the horuglass constantly renews itself and more opponents keep coming. it takes time to beat them as well since its dmd