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Moon21_25
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May 14, 04 at 1:06am
Vito from Michael.

I was in the movies/films forum other day and saw a thread with a list of greatest characters from movies, and Vito Corleone was no.1. Now as great as Vito was i thought Michael was better, his progression from not bein involved in the family buisness to becoming, well a ruthless Godfather was portrayed and played exellently so i thought it should have been Michael. So just thought i`d ask opinions.
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May 14, 04 at 1:22am
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Well, I'm not sure because they both are very different. Vito is a very noble well-respected man who will do the best for his family. Michael on the other hand is a nice warm hearted man who becomes into a ruthless mafia man, but he does kill people to protect his family. They both are different and similar but I like Michael better, I don't know why but I like his personality better.


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May 23, 04 at 1:42am
re: Vito from Michael.

what about fredo? or tom hagen?

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The mobsters, ot the state?

Crime, the Organized - one of the most profitable types of the criminal (look up: Crime, the) enterprises. The [alternative] state (look up: State, the). The most bitter competitor of the state in its favourite racket - the racket of protection, including the military racket. It does provide some kind alternative to the state, but, when it clashes with state really hard, it's rather bad for business. Any business. The basic one of staying alive including. Nevertheless, when some kind of really profitable racket, such as the drug dealing (look up: Drugs, the), is considered too dirty even for the state, it have to co-operate with the Organized Crime, forming some kind of hate hate partnership. On the other hand, it may well be stated, that some deeds, like throwing into the prisons the miserable sick men - the drug addicts, are to foul even for the Organized Crime - and never mind the profits. Then, for a share in those profits, the state officials do take upon themselves the dirty part of the mutual enterprise. Even as the Organized Crime is a venerable enterprise rooted in history may be even somewhat deeper, than the state and its government (look up: Government, the), the modern Organized Crime became one of the most powerful international entities as the result of the alcohol and then drug Prohibition american laws (look up: Law, the). The gang makes a healthy profit on whoring, gambling, arms trade and even the legal businesses and institution, but to make its jump-start for that kind of power it needed something simple and enormously profitable and the drug dealing fit the description to T.


State, the - As the gangs of the law (look up: Law, the) breakers grown up in their size and power, they gradually divided among themselves, growing into the organized crime (look up: Crime, the Organized) and governments (look up: Government, the). Namely, the daytime racket of protection became government just as soon, as its leaders started to fight among themselves for the better place in the hierarchy and build themselves some kind of fortified castles; while the night-time protection racket, that gave more freedom by far to its ranks and didn't care overmuch for the hierarchy and fortification, became organized crime of the Mafia type - honour, family values, etc. Every time you do hear loud noises about the honour and family values, it may be worthwhile to consider this point. Well, when it decides, that the time came for a good, messy war (look up: War, the), the government takes the traditional Mafia values out of their dusty closet, air them up a bit, and presents to the general public for its own. A rather dirty business, as they go, the state is - but there are, currently no alternative to this and other forms of organized crime, as the anarchy manages to be worse, still. So, however you would call the fiefs of the other kinds of the organized crime, the territory, which the government thinks, that it owns, was called The State - together with the government itself, and everything inside its borders. Today, the States are associated with the peoples, just like the slaves of the household were the part of the family in the ancient Rome on the very dawn of its existence, and the pets are even now. Some peoples go so far, as to consider themselves the owners of their states - but there is no way, as yet, for the whole people to manage the State efficiently - and thus, the only real power, that the peoples may have - is the power to change their governments, which work hard on making even that power of the peoples an empty illusion, by dividing themselves into a small number of interconnected alternative governments, which are the one with one another and other types of the organized crime.
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Aug 10, 05 at 8:25am
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Personally I like Michael better cuz I've read the book and I think Al Pacino portrays the role of Michael perfectly and cuz he's an incredibly complex character in general

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Mar 28, 06 at 3:05pm
re: Vito from Michael.

You'll understand when you see The Godfather Part II.



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