Sorry guys, but Light Eco and White Eco are two totally different things.

Don't you think they would look the same?

quote overKill

Don't you think they would look the same?

They do, at least somewhat. Personally I think its the same thing, and anything else can be attributed to the games. The games were made years apart, and one only made a one off appearance, while the other was an important element of the game.

quote Karis

White Eco is not Light Eco.
Light Eco is not White Eco.


They aren't the same thing ._.

Why can't they be?

And I have some very decent reasons why that page could be wrong, its not a debate unless both sides are considered equally viable right?

Anyway here are my reasons.

1)That site says they look different, but they also look very similar. All the other eco's are distinct and fairly obvious, yet these two are almost identical. Does this mean there's a black eco? A crimson eco? Any small changes I believe can be due to design choice and the several year gap between the production of the first Jak and Daxter (where white eco supposedly appears) and Jak 3 (which supposedly has light eco).

2)Consider the names. Light eco and dark eco. Both are shades, and the names perfectly reflect their status as opposites. White and dark eco do not, one implies a color, the other a shade. It is therefore my belief that light eco is merely a correction in a name which better reflects this nature.

3) With the white eco not changing Daxter back, I can think of many possibilities. First, Daxter never directly comes into contact with white eco, just Jak. Second, he is now too far gone, he has been too long a ottsel to change back. Third, white eco wouldn't have done anything in the first place. As we learn at the end of Jak 3, daxter is a precursor, and not just some disease which can be cured. Effectively he is the embodiment of white eco, and the theory that it could change him back is only a very far off guess anyway, and was basically just a self sacrifice the developers chucked in at the last minute.

4) As for the difference in gaining white eco, that's really a gameplay issue. Would it have done better to have to combine all four eco's every time you wanted to use light powers?

5) Again the powers is a gameplay issue. If Jak could have used light eco as he used the white in the first game there would be zero challenge in combat, blowing up everything in your path would kind of destroy the fun wouldn't it?

Some of those are a bit of a stretch, but so are some of the points against.

it is different because in jak and daxter 1 jak destroyed the robot using a ball of energy (white eco) which you cannot do in jak 3 (light eco). About the destructive power thing you need to charge up light eco before you can use it.

i dont get where you guys get the idea that the eco created at the end of the first game is called white eco. if you go back and watch that cutscene which is all over youtube, both Gol and daxter both call the stuff light eco

here is a link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jru1YvE0dWI

no skip to about 3:50 minutes into the video. this is the scene where the eco combines to form the light eco globs. gol says "light eco?!?! so it does exist" then maia says " they must not be allowed to get it". then daxter responds by saying, "light eco?!?! that could be the stuff to change me back,... or save the world"

no where in the game is white eco ever mentioned. there are only six ecos ever mention. green, red, yellow, blue, dark, and LIGHT.

and after the first game, the ecos dont technically disappear. they are made into the amo for the different guns. except green eco which is made into the health packs.

for those of you who are wondering why jak reacts differently to LIGHT eco in the first game than in the third. there is a simple answer to that and it relates to dark jak as well. In the first game jak was not infused with light powers. when he absorbed the LIGHT eco, it only gave him temporary powers just as absorbing the other four ecos did. In the third game, the precursors infused him with the power of light eco, just as baron did to jak with dark eco in the second game.

for those of you who still dissagree and say that its not true becuz it looks different in both games. well think about this, jak looks different in every game. his image evolves to fit the mood of the game. how gay would it have look to have those colorful globs in a dark environment. they changed the look of the light eco globs to the darker, simpler, bad ass light eco pills.

this soo called white eco and light eco are the same thing. the loock changes because the creators wanted the pills to fit the environment. the end

oh yea.. and those of you who wonder why light powered jak in the first is offensive compared to the defensive light jak in the third. thats simple. dark jak is already offensive. why would you need two offensive sides? especially when light is supposed to be the opposite of darkness. and think about it rage and destruction usually go with darkness. where as healing and protection go with light. hence the respective abilities