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Eliwood the Slayer Neolithic total posts: 6646 since: Jul 2006	Oct 13, 06 at 2:00am re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	quote TemplarSimon This still isn't relevant to the debate just yet. There aren't any Entombed bosses in the game save for Chapter 4. They do in skirmishes, and that is not necessarily ToV...
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WJC no-stoppin-me-now total posts: 261 since: Sep 2006	Oct 13, 06 at 2:07am re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	Nor is it part of the main Campaign, which is what we are discussing in this topic. Anyway, if differing class values don't work, then I'd say you're right in that the Entombed Bonus is not 60. I've noticed units getting exceptional Exp gains even from non-boss Entombed, so I'm sure that such a Bonus exists, we merely need to figure out what it is.
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Eliwood the Slayer Neolithic total posts: 6646 since: Jul 2006	Oct 13, 06 at 2:10am re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	quote WJC Nor is it part of the main Campaign, which is what we are discussing in this topic. Anyway, if differing class values don't work, then I'd say you're right in that the Entombed Bonus is not 60. I've noticed units getting exceptional Exp gains even from non-boss Entombed, so I'm sure that such a Bonus exists, we merely need to figure out what it is. It could probably come with other monsters, too. The monsters in main campaign that are boss's are: Gorgon, draco zombie, cyclops, and deathgoyle.
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WJC no-stoppin-me-now total posts: 261 since: Sep 2006	Oct 13, 06 at 4:31am re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	I've played through this game nearly 70 times and never noticed any other Monsters giving out significantly more Exp than the others. Only Entombed.
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Dragonlord999 I am your master...obey! Hooked on Neo total posts: 4432 since: Feb 2004	Oct 13, 06 at 4:46am re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	OK, I declare myself swayed by the arguments of TS and WJC. The only thing that I will still argue is that Lute is better as Sage than MK. Other promotions and matters regarding XP, I support TS and WJC now. Huzzah. But this is only for main campaign, the scenario remains different for Creature Campaign and Link Arena. ------------------- 飞雪连天射白鹿 . . . . . . 笑书神侠倚碧鸳
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WJC no-stoppin-me-now total posts: 261 since: Sep 2006	Oct 13, 06 at 5:00am re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	Of course; with infinite Exp available in the CC, 20/20 stats are what should be assumed there.
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Insanity Prevails (neocrs) (moderator) Site Contributor's Forum User Reviews Critiques and Help total posts: 14895 neopoints: 7109 GameGrep pts: 412 since: Feb 2003	Oct 13, 06 at 11:13am re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	quote It could probably come with other monsters, too. The monsters in main campaign that are boss's are: Gorgon, draco zombie, cyclops, and deathgoyle. Yes, but they're bosses. In that case they get the boss bonus (which appears to be correct at the moment but still testing). It's not a monster bonus and so will not apply to the monsters in Darkling Woods. ------------------- General Legend of Zelda
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Eliwood the Slayer Neolithic total posts: 6646 since: Jul 2006	Oct 13, 06 at 1:05pm re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	quote Insanity Prevails quote It could probably come with other monsters, too. The monsters in main campaign that are boss's are: Gorgon, draco zombie, cyclops, and deathgoyle. Yes, but they're bosses. In that case they get the boss bonus (which appears to be correct at the moment but still testing). It's not a monster bonus and so will not apply to the monsters in Darkling Woods. It's all in the matter of trusting you? Sorry, but I'm not going to let an opposed debater take all the shots.
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Insanity Prevails (neocrs) (moderator) Site Contributor's Forum User Reviews Critiques and Help total posts: 14895 neopoints: 7109 GameGrep pts: 412 since: Feb 2003	Oct 13, 06 at 2:10pm re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	Do your own testing then. By all means I encourage any and all people here interested to do testing within their own games to clarify the situation. The more testing done the better, as it can only solidify the correct answer. Please, post the results of each character battle that is relevant. Post character name, levels, classes, formula prediction and actual gains. Dictate if boss type or not. I can tell you now that my 14 Bishop Artur got 53 points against a non-boss Entombed and only a few points against any other non-boss monster defeated thus far (this is covering a wide range of unpromoted monsters including Baels, Revenants and Maelduins). I'll test against the promoted monsters later with Artur if you like, but I'm sure there will not be any monster bonus factored in and the only EXP gained will be based on the levels plus the base value and not any extra bonus. I've already had Duessel and Kyle fight promoted monsters like Wights and no extra point bonus was awarded. If you disbelieve my results go into the game yourself and recreate the situations or run your own tests. You'll find you'll come up with the same results. As I said, the Entombed bonus is wrong (yes, you were right about that point) and indeed the other bonuses are now called into question (although currently two tests against non-Entombed bosses have appeared to prove the boss value bonus correct). This message was edited by Insanity Prevails on Oct 13 2006. ------------------- General Legend of Zelda
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TemplarSimon high on "N" total posts: 736 since: Sep 2006	Oct 14, 06 at 12:48am re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	quote Eliwood the Slayer They do in skirmishes, and that is not necessarily ToV... While that is true. recall that Skirmishes aren't a part of the campaign either. quote Dragonlord999 OK, I declare myself swayed by the arguments of TS and WJC. The only thing that I will still argue is that Lute is better as Sage than MK. Other promotions and matters regarding XP, I support TS and WJC now. Huzzah. But this is only for main campaign, the scenario remains different for Creature Campaign and Link Arena. HUZZAH! indeed.
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Ranger 1 Blind alligence is foolishness Neo or Bust total posts: 7295 since: Apr 2004	Oct 14, 06 at 12:51am re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	There has to be a huge bonus for Gorgon Eggs... ------------------- I came, I saw, I wish I hadn't http://www.petitiononline.com/fe6/petition.html Please sign the petition to bring Fire Emblem 6 to the U.S. Read it for further details.
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TemplarSimon high on "N" total posts: 736 since: Sep 2006	Oct 14, 06 at 12:55am re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	Gorgon Eggs are a constant 50 EXP regardless of level, from what I've noticed.
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Ranger 1 Blind alligence is foolishness Neo or Bust total posts: 7295 since: Apr 2004	Oct 14, 06 at 12:57am re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	Really? I am pretty sure I've gotten more experience from them than that... ------------------- I came, I saw, I wish I hadn't http://www.petitiononline.com/fe6/petition.html Please sign the petition to bring Fire Emblem 6 to the U.S. Read it for further details.
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Dragonlord999 I am your master...obey! Hooked on Neo total posts: 4432 since: Feb 2004	Oct 14, 06 at 1:58am re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	Pretty sure it's 49-51, I think it fluctuates by 1 point sometimes... ------------------- 飞雪连天射白鹿 . . . . . . 笑书神侠倚碧鸳
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TemplarSimon high on "N" total posts: 736 since: Sep 2006	Oct 14, 06 at 2:35am re: Character Promotions-first post updated
	Hm. I've yet to fail to receive anything more or less than 50 EXP. Maybe there's some sort of odd fluctuation unique to Gorgon Eggs. Gorgon Eggs are pretty much given to not fit the EXP formula; the greatest fluctuation mentioned yet is DL's 49-51 fluctuation, which is much too small to fit within the confines of the EXP formula. This could be problematic, since Gorgon Eggs, unlike Entombed bosses, occur frequently enough to cause complications (one chapter chock full of 'em).
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