anyone know If Bethesda are working on a new one or they too busy with Fallout 3?

Shivering Isles was the first and last expansion. In other words Bethesda are done with Oblivion and are moving on with other projects. It wouldn't be practical for them to make another expansion when gamers are pleading for production of Elder Scrolls V to start

True, but fans should find something else to pass the time until TES V, like the unlimited potential for modding that Oblivion has. I read that Fallout 3 is all Bethesda cares about at the moment and we probably won't be seeing the first fruits of the TES V project for several years.


Seriously, there are lots of good, free mods out there for Oblivion and everybody can create their own as well. You might as well have fun with that for now, because we'll be waiting awhile.

quote Drizzt

I've sparred with demons from the Nine Hells themselves, I shall barely break a sweat here today.

True but unfortunately the majority of the elder scrolls community are console owners, who are currently complaining about lack of modding ability and refuse to cave into buying the PC version and/or don't have a powerful enough PC to play it and/or are too tight/can't afford a new PC.

On top of that, anothe majority of the community are pining for a MMO version, meaning to get their fix their going to head over to Guild Wars or WoW etc.

Another majority are quite happy to replay Morrowind or as you stated spend hours on Oblivion with mods and/or using that gameplay to make videos or screenshots

Point is,Bethesda aren't doing anymore work for Oblivion but the gaming community always will be. 6 years on and mods are still being released for Morrowind

Finally a minor (though could be a majority) are heavily awaiting Falllout 3

It's not like we're BEGGING for TES V. The first post in a forum after a game comes out is, "WENS DA SEKWEL COMIN OUT???"

but it would be a big improvement becuase rember that game that are released in that it was released in 2006 and in production about 2003 or 2004 so if there was a The elder scrolls 4 oblivion so if it was created this year the gaming would be alot of better you could get a load of people to somehow to get a pretiction on the internet then send it in but an expasion would be good but it would be good maybe based on thevies guild but it proberley would not be better then the shriver isles but basicly yes it would be good

quote ShadowJ

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Finally a minor (though could be a majority) are heavily awaiting Falllout 3

quote The5thAvacado

It's not like we're BEGGING for TES V. The first post in a forum after a game comes out is, "WENS DA SEKWEL COMIN OUT???"

quote Honor

but it would be a big improvement becuase rember that game that are released in that it was released in 2006 and in production about 2003 or 2004 so if there was a The elder scrolls 4 oblivion so if it was created this year the gaming would be alot of better you could get a load of people to somehow to get a pretiction on the internet then send it in but an expasion would be good but it would be good maybe based on thevies guild but it proberley would not be better then the shriver isles but basicly yes it would be good

Tbh, I thought the gameplay for Morrowind was atrocious. From lockpicking to combat, it was a hassle.

quote Drizzt

I've sparred with demons from the Nine Hells themselves, I shall barely break a sweat here today.

Is this before or after you played Oblivion?

Sure, it wasn't all high and mighty like today's games but it still beats the snot out of today's games with or without the fancy features.

Yes the combat is a bore with the same hack n slash routine...ironically enough so is Oblivion's unless you download combat enhancing mods.

Lockpicking was simply based on your skills...something I prefer more to than a mini-game that can be cracked in less than 10 seconds and is yet again ironically enough, same routine.

Magic system...yeah give you that one, they massively improved on this but only for the fact there are scripted spells now and you can cast spells with a weapon wielded.

Stealth system is where they made up for the above yet even then there are still flaws within it.

Lastly. Morrowind was in a time where Aegia Pyshix wasn't even thought of, where Havok wasn't developed or HDR and superior graphics cards for that matter.

Infact within a 4 year gap the requirements for an elder scrolls game has gone from a mere 64MB video card to 256MB video card...a 512MB if you really want Oblivion to shine.

However, after all that. If Morrowind wasn't made as "atrocious" as you state in your opinion then would Oblivion have made it as far as it did?

If Morrowind was released with a lockpicking mini-game and Oblivion combat...what would Oblivion have? A harder lockpicking game? New battle sytles but the same system? Sure they may have other ideas brainstormed by then if that happened but look at Fable.

Fable was a good game but the gameplay was atrocious and the game was short. Now Fable 2 is under development and from what I'm hearing, it's nothing like its predecessor...exactly the same thing with Morrowind and Oblivion. Morrowind is the ugly duckling and Beth Soft have simply allowed it to evolve to the next stage and make it unique even more. ES V won't be the beautiful swan, just another stage but answer me this...when ES V is released, will that mean that when Oblivion is compared to it, that its gameplay will be atrocious?

As the Oblivion developers said in interviews before the game came out, when asked by the gaming community, "would this-that-and-the-other" also be in the game ... the reply was "all those additions could be added and included in the game, but that the game would never get finished". That's what developers are up against, time and the need to finish a product or it can go on forever.

However they can and do take what worked well in the previous version, tweak it and put the improvement into the sequel, saving a lot of time in new development, and consequently always getting an improvement on the last produced version, in addition to adding new ideas into the game this time ... such as maybe what the gaming community above had been asking about previously.

So in effect you could say that all games are unfinished in some way or other, though they seem 'finished' when playing them. Though sometimes there are exceptions to bits in the game which really stand out as being 'not finished' ... notably the Alchemy in Morrowind for one, it really was unusable to all intents, but thankfully it has been corrected in Oblivion and is now perfection and a dream to use. Something like that might be called atrocious I guess.

I also found other niggles that had a negative effect on the game-play as well. I would say that smoothness of action and play, without hindrance or tiresome unnecessary repetitiveness, among other things, make for a game that will never be called atrocious.

But, along with the practice of Bethesda always improving on their previous versions, ES V will likely be worth waiting for, with all the improvements and perfections taken from Oblivion and added into ES V, along with whatever variations in game-play they can dream up.

well i was thinking since they released 2 expansions for Morrowind (which i really must play through again sometime if i can find it) they would make a 2nd for Oblivion

quote Sitruc

So in effect you could say that all games are unfinished in some way or other, though they seem 'finished' when playing them. Though sometimes there are exceptions to bits in the game which really stand out as being 'not finished' ...

quote Shrike

well i was thinking since they released 2 expansions for Morrowind (which i really must play through again sometime if i can find it) they would make a 2nd for Oblivion

quote GenghisKhanIT

quote Sitruc

So in effect you could say that all games are unfinished in some way or other, though they seem 'finished' when playing them. Though sometimes there are exceptions to bits in the game which really stand out as being 'not finished' ...

There are quite a few of these in Oblivion too IMO:
- Telekinesis spell should have been for Ob what Gravity Gun has been for Half Life 2
- The Skooma gang in Bravil should have been a quest that never saw the light of day
- Fame/Infamy should have had an effect on some gameplay aspects (enemies fleeing...)
- Willpower chance to resist spell is stated in some loading screens but not in the game
- Jokes told statistic