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Topic: Starting over...
traiuslocke
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Aug 24, 07 at 1:07am
re: Starting over...

I don't know, if you put all your majors as ones you use, your skill ups per level are spread too thin, especially if you made a class of only the best skills, like:
Destruction
Restoration
Blade
Heavy Armor
Sneak
Block
Marksman (if you use it)/ Acrobatics

Then you level up with no skill excelling enough to meet the challenge. Your skills, since they are all used, are all roughly equal, and low.

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Aug 25, 07 at 11:04am
re: Starting over...

Well, I don't know if I messed this up or not, but here is how I made my new character last night...

Redguard

Strength, Endurance

Blade, Block, Alchemy, Illusion, Conjuration, Marksman, Heavy Armor


If that makes me a bad player oh well, I am just playing for fun in the end!



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Aug 25, 07 at 11:18am
re: Starting over...

you should have used alteration instead of conjuration

unless you followed the advice on not all skills you use as major skills

Above you pretty much have the perfect warrior/ assasin!



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Aug 25, 07 at 5:21pm
re: Starting over...

Well that's good that I chose good stuff!

Why would it maybe have been good to choose alteration instead?



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Aug 27, 07 at 8:36am
re: Starting over...

Personally I find conjuration far more useful, I rarely use alteration magic, alchemy will cover that prett well.

Apart from that you will become master in your chosen way of play ... and then some, ending up as a multi-character able to win at everything.

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Aug 27, 07 at 8:54am
re: Starting over...

With alteration you can get everywhere
it contains water walking, water breathing, unlocking and feathering

four things that you can cover up with alchemy but you need millions of potions and the right ingredients to make them...

I rather use alchemy for poisons to kill enemies faster


anyways alteration will get you to places and keeps you moving
its ideal for a warrior that wants to lasts and explore, so he doesn't go to cities that much etc!



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Aug 27, 07 at 3:46pm
re: Starting over...

quote Tyhon
With alteration you can get everywhere
it contains water walking, water breathing, unlocking and feathering

four things that you can cover up with alchemy but you need millions of potions and the right ingredients to make them...
Alteration is no match ... for example---


Alchemy will do all that alteration can do ... and better

.... apart from unlock directly as far as I know ... it would have to help unlock indirectly by helping other abliities

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Aug 27, 07 at 8:11pm
re: Starting over...

How can I get a nice feather potion? I don't remember my alchemy skill, but I really need a feather potion.



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Aug 27, 07 at 8:13pm
re: Starting over...

just combine any two items that have feather as a thing.

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Sitruc
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Aug 28, 07 at 4:38am
re: Starting over...

Flax seeds - around Skingrad
Sweetcake - alchemy shop
Venison - evreywhere

Or alchemy shops ... all Level 2 effect above.

Level 3 has Sacred lotus seed

Level 4 has Somalus Frond and Lady Mantle Leaves.

I may have missed one or two.


... and water walking to get anywhere


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Aug 28, 07 at 10:51am
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well I dont need that stuff

ALTERATION RULES BECAUSE POTIONS CANT OPEN STUFF!!!!
btw as I said you need the right ingredients

I just need to press one button after I got the right spell!
besides its nice because alteration is governed by Willpower I believe anyways alchemy isn't and I want to increase Willpower!

so in the end, you might make 1 potion while I have casted 4 spells (which have all I need!) so that makes my alteration grow faster while you still have made 1 potion (as in per time you use it )

(finally an endless discussion that isn't about morrowind vs oblivion )


and uhm I think I might win this with this argument
you need the spells anyways to enchant on an altar



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Aug 28, 07 at 1:13pm
re: Starting over...

Never needed alteration to open anything, that's covered by other things such as lockpicking.

We always carry a batch of potions that are likely to be needed anyway .. simple, and they are stronger.

We do magic as well of course ... such as conjugation in preference to alteration. conjugation is a better choice between the two, since alchemy covers alteration pretty well.

And mysticism of course ......... and others.

The point is that conjugation was a better choice for Bill Gates03, instead of alteration.

He made the right choice since he said he was interested in alchemy ... as I am.

Alteration is probably the least useful of the magics.


... and somebody else will have to take over from me in this ----->

quote Tyhon
finally an endless discussion that isn't about morrowind vs oblivion )
GTG. hols

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ShadowJ
Aug 28, 07 at 1:34pm
re: Starting over...

I can safely say I have never used Alteration within the game at any point during my 4 characters

Alchemy and Security is all I have used



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Aug 28, 07 at 7:48pm
re: Starting over...

quote Sitruc
We do magic as well of course ... such as conjugation in preference to alteration. conjugation is a better choice between the two, since alchemy covers alteration pretty well.

And mysticism of course ......... and others.

The point is that conjugation was a better choice for Bill Gates03, instead of alteration.
The meaning of conjugation:
1. Union of sex cells (gametes) or unicellular organisms during fertilization.
2. the changing formation of a verb according to person, number, tense, etc..

The meaning of conjuration:
Conjuration is the magic of summoning creatures from other planes, creating magical weapons and armor, and repelling undead creatures.

But yes, I do prefer conjugation to alteration any day...

Just messing with you Sitruc!



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Sitruc
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Sep 06, 07 at 6:37am
re: Starting over...

quote Bill Gates03
quote Sitruc
We do magic as well of course ... such as conjugation in preference to alteration. conjugation is a better choice between the two, since alchemy covers alteration pretty well.

And mysticism of course ......... and others.

The point is that conjugation was a better choice for Bill Gates03, instead of alteration.
The meaning of conjugation:
1. Union of sex cells (gametes) or unicellular organisms during fertilization.
2. the changing formation of a verb according to person, number, tense, etc..

The meaning of conjuration:
Conjuration is the magic of summoning creatures from other planes, creating magical weapons and armor, and repelling undead creatures.

But yes, I do prefer conjugation to alteration any day...

Just messing with you Sitruc!
LOL

Well, I did say I was going on holiday Bill ... and now you can see where my mind was.

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