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Jul 17, 04 at 10:37pm
re: Debate on Child Killing II

quote Parable
Ummm... i think we're slowly getting an idea of who in this forum is going to grow up and beat their kids or become serial killers.

Look, Zao... you said that names like "child" or "adult" are tags that mean nothing... So does that mean i can kill your first born child because he or she will eventually become an adult and if its okay for adults to be killed then it must be okay for a newborn to be kill? Sorry. That logic makes no sense. There is absolutely no good reason to kill children in this game

Smacking kids around is one thing... eviscerating them is another thing.
yes i would be mad. however, that is because it is my first born child. there really is no difference. i dont want my kid killed at any age.

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Jul 18, 04 at 4:10am
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And you dont think thats wrong how? Find another hobby before you put your feelings to real life sicko
hey im not sick i just not an idiot like some of you guys its a video game i dont *bleep*ing care but if they look like a real as i said before a real innocent looking kid i cant kill them id never forgive my self...well since its a game i would but i would fel wierd. i just have a better understanding of real and fake than some of you guys and i wont beast my kids that once again i cant live with...then theres the fact that i can go to jail.but i already love the closest thing i have to a kid which is my little sister she looks up to me and i would kill myself if something happened to her i couldnt hurt her no matter what and thats the thing because shes real shes a little innocent girl which i have grown to love i cant kill her i can hurt her friends because they are just relaly good kids and i couldnt bring myself to hurt them but its the reality of it i know its not a game so i care if i was playing a game id kill anyone in my path in a second unless they looked incredibly real so FUC.K you FOR CALLING ME A SICKO

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Jul 18, 04 at 9:22pm
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how come people think we are sick for wanting child killings in the game. it should be in any game that has kids. i have never seen a game where kids were spacificaly unkillable.

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Jul 18, 04 at 9:45pm
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as i stated in my post above; neverwinter nights.

i don't think wanting to have child killing is nessicarily an indicator of one's sanity, but i do think that the refusal to let it drop after you've posted about it two or three times is an indicator of one's maturity.

alot of people are saying that fable is beginning to lose it's 'realism' with the drop of child killing, and several other features. i've only got one thing to say in response to that.

this is a game.

i don't play games for realism. if i want real, i'll go to work.

besides, in whose mind is child killing real? yes, you can go and kill a child, but in all honesty, who will? hell, if you think along the lines of most reasonable people, murder isn't typically a real option in life (yeah, yeah, self defense, defense of one's home, but on the whole, you may want to kill someone, but you probaly won't).

with everything this game is promising to bring to us, what does this little bit mean in the grand scope of things? absolutely nothing.

guess we're gonna have to be evil without slaughtering children. i'm over it, are you?



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Jul 18, 04 at 9:51pm
re: Debate on Child Killing II

quote Zao
how come people think we are sick for wanting child killings in the game. it should be in any game that has kids. i have never seen a game where kids were spacificaly unkillable.
Well... So that means you have never played a FF game... Or much games at all...


quote rabidweasel
.....with everything this game is promising to bring to us, what does this little bit mean in the grand scope of things? absolutely nothing.

guess we're gonna have to be evil without slaughtering children. i'm over it, are you?
I agree with some of the stuff u said... But I disagree with one thing- you gotta remember for some people its the lil things that make the game.



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Jul 18, 04 at 10:21pm
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its not taht we need to kill people its that there are kids and if we want to level a town little anckle biters running around is annoying and your right peoples post show there maturity half of you who dont want child killing are ok and just dont want to bring themselves to it or stuff like that others are immature its a game who cares about it but when tehres virtual reality only a sick *bleep* would do it because it would be soo real its the fact taht its a game dont think were sick that we want to be evil mother *bleep*ers i want my horns i dont wanna be a pussy who wont do anything i want to become infamous not know for mercy or bitching about evil things and how they are bad.

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Jul 18, 04 at 11:04pm
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Maybe it wouldnt be as bad if there was no blood when killing them. (There is blood in this game right?)



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Jul 19, 04 at 7:43am
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who cares they are just polygons, if you kill kids in real-life then you need your head checked and 100yrs of prison

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Jul 19, 04 at 10:06am
re: Debate on Child Killing II

quote DeadDogInc
quote Zao
how come people think we are sick for wanting child killings in the game. it should be in any game that has kids. i have never seen a game where kids were spacificaly unkillable.
Well... So that means you have never played a FF game... Or much games at all...
I have played a FF game. 3 of them and they all sucked.



quote DeadDogInc
Maybe it wouldnt be as bad if there was no blood when killing them. (There is blood in this game right?)

Even when there is blood its no big deal. its not like it really sounds like you are hitting a kid. there are no flying limbs and snaping of bone. all that happens is a sound like a thump on wood and and sparkle of happieness appers where you hit him.

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Jul 19, 04 at 10:19am
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Children were available targets in Deus Ex 2: The invisible war, but it's not a matter of murder. If you do kill or attack any kids(mostly), then you are pretty much wanted throughout the city. But them being killable, that made you have to watch your step if you wanted to do the right thing. A school shootout wasn't exactly the safest thing. If for any reason, child killing should be allowed in this game to prevent accidents like that. And, yea, if it so happens you can go through a town and kill and burn and shoot and maim, and in the rubble, there are kids walking around without a care, what does that say about realism? Not much. People know, going into Fable, it doesn't exist. Magic doesn't exist. Most people, nowadays, couldn't hold a sword straight if it was tied to their arms. And most of us wouldn't and don't go around killing innocent people. There's been violent games for years, and because of a few indecent vagrants shucking off the blame onto a certain few, the freedom is limited through the mass market. There's an 'M' on the box for a reason, and I think if you can't tolerate the possibility of killing a child, then you just shouldn't do it in the game. But for some of us who want the complete game, that exact, crimson shade of evil beyond repentence is only available unchained.



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Jul 19, 04 at 11:11am
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Ok in my opinion, killable kids in the game make Fable more dramatic. For example, if some drunk freak with an axe outta no where enters your house and kills your kid, you would pause the game and say to yourself "....how....dare...HE...!!!!!" then suddenly u unpause then u draw your sword and gut the guy to death laughing MWAHAHAHAHHHAA while doing it. And u get a feelng in the game (u might) that makes u want to avenge your child by turning evil



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Jul 19, 04 at 4:16pm
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Wait a second, I just thought about something interesting. If I remember correctly, the developers stated that if the player has a family before finishing the main storyline, something will happen dramatic will happen to them to prompt you to action. This hints to the death of them, but it may just be a case of kidnapping, but if that does mean death, the kid will get killed, right? As for my opinion on child killing I couldn't care less, either it's in or out, anything goes.

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Jul 19, 04 at 4:33pm
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Ya but then you wouldn't be doing it making it a diffrent arugment all together just like if they put fatal diseases in the game unless there was someway to make a kid get it it wouldn't be you doing it. But im guessing that they either get killed or they kill ur wife and try to make the kid turn against you good or evil depending on what you are.

I also think that if your respected and you hit a kid and he accuses you of it they wont belive him because your really respected.



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Jul 19, 04 at 9:07pm
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Ahhh... no point arguing this really. If they have child killing, then they have it and lets hope the soccer moms and pissy bitches don't start a huge uproar over it. If they don't have child killing, then they don't and its not really such a big deal.

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Jul 20, 04 at 2:50pm
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when you think about what happens to his family , child killings isn't very violent or controversial. i mean, his dog was nailed to the door. thats alot worse than you swinging you're sword at a kid, seeing a few puffs of light, and having him fall over. and another thing is that killing kids is our choice. the video that shows his dog nailed to the door isnt and we have to see that and think about it either way. BBB is weird. its cause they are all british probably.

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