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Topic: Fable 2 Ideas
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Sep 21, 04 at 1:30pm
re: Fable 2 ideas?

first of all it needs to be a lot longer, i mean it was an awesome game but it was way to short! Then it should be able to be on xbox live, set up like ffXI or diabloII. also i wish that it wouldnt be so easy to get some of the weapons like u can buy the solus greatsword in bowerstone and u can get the sword of aeons from just beating the game. If it was that easy to get armor and weapons than it wouldnt be worth playing online or else everyone would be the same with maxed out stats same armor and weapons. It also needs to be more like morrowind like everyone else said where u can go where u want and ur not stuck to the road. if u had to be stuck on the road, and it was online than it would be far too crowded.

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Sep 21, 04 at 1:31pm
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PART 2 lol

As 4 the weapons being harder to get i think that legendary weapons should have an impossible quest to beat where only the best of people can beat it, and it would still be extremely hard!

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Well this subject has already been ask to the devlopers of the game. They said to make a new Fable they would have to start from scratch. My thought on that would be that they mean that they would have to start over because Fable was such a halfbaked idea on paper that everyone thought you couldn't do it.

This is my thoughts on this subject. Lionhead should make a Fable 2. They should take what they have done already and grow on that. Why start over when it took you 4 years to get this far. I know Peter likes his games to be the next big thing and all but I don't think I can wait for a new Fable that long. Why?! because half the stuff they said they would have wasn't in the game and after 4 years I expect everything to being the game.

There is alot of room for Fable to grow into the Xbox's Zelda like game. But better because of the hero being your own. If they expand on what they have dear god Peter will have the best RPG ever award. This could take some time but not as long because they are not starting from sratch. Plus there is tons of history not known about the world of fable. I'm talking about those dragons we read about but never have seen.

I hope that Lionhead is going to make a new fable beacuse to leave it at this would be a waste of the 4 years to make it. All the people that have played Fable love it to death and hope for a longer title in the next game. So until then pray to god they are hearing us.



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I agree with the sentiments that rather than trying to revolutionize in fable 2 they should evolutionize and grow on what they have already made.

That said here is what I would like to see:

1. Ability to go places by sea via boat, and even purchase a boat or a fleet of boats for sea trading.

After looking at the great detail that they put into those boats and the water effects, etc. It was a shame that you couldn't do anything with a boat but look at it.

2. More interactive commands and stuff to do with mobs.

I think it would be very cool if you could do more stuff with the mobs in the game. You have the ability to purchase a shop, but rather than 'running' it, you are basically consigned to being a landlord and have no interaction with the people in the shop.

I'd like to buy a shop, hire a trader to run the shop, and be able to give him commands. Allow you the player to determine what that shop will buy/sell and the trader will automatically take care of the details and you get a percentage of everything that gets sold, and you pay the trader for his services the same way you pay mercenaries only at a much slower rate of withdrawal.

I'd like mercenaries to be more specialized such as archers, swordsmen, mages, etc. and have the ability to set them offensive or defensize. For example, a mage set offensive will lay to waste with lightning blasts and fireballs, while on defensive would stick to healing and protective spells.

3. Open Landscape - everyone complained about this one, so I'd definately add it in the next one.

4. Longer more involved story - see above.

5. More character customization

You should be able to change the color of armor or take it to someone who can, someone mentioned dyeing ones hair, I'd like to be able to customize certain permanent features from the start of the game such as eye color, skin color, hair color, etc.

6. More realistic reactions

My biggest pet peeve with Fable is the reactions from mobs in the game. First of all, a simple change of clothing and hairstyle is all it takes to make people go from running in fear to falling in love. I'd have more emphasis on your reputation, with a slight + or - thrown in for how you look.

Secondly, and maybe this is just me, but after beating the game, and you are supposedly the single most powerful being in Albion - the guards still don't fear you. Come on! Where is the respect?!? It just takes me out of the game when for instance I am married to Lady Grey therefore making me the mayor's husband AND I'm the most powerful being in the whole entire world and guards still strip you of your weapons (even the sword of Aeons - after all that trouble getting it!) and follow you around 'keeping their eye on you'.

Thats it for now, I have more ideas, but so does everyone else.

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fable 2, if it comes out like this, it will be one non stop orgasm for the rest of my life.

Big areas, not the small damn confined paths that you are stuck too and cant go anywhere but foreward, too muych like lord of the rings almost. when i see a small feild in the background, surrounded by cliffs, let me go and run free through it, i want to explore and find out myself just how big albion really is. not look off in the distance and guess. i dont care if there needs to be a minute load time in each area, but darkwood, it needs to be one big area not little chunks. almost every place in albion gives me this feeling of claustophobia except the towns. next thing i want. is lower the extent that magic gives u wrinkles, grey hair, and liver spots. the dramatic aging caused by magic discourages one from using it how it should be used, im not saying it needs to go completely, i think its cool. but not so harsh. next, more clothes. assasin outfit is badass with the bandit cap, if only the cap was black it would be perfect. i think there should be more variations of every peice os every outfit, and for gods sake, more helmets! more weapons is next on the list, we got, longbow, crossbow, pickaxe, longsword, katana, mace, hammer, and axe. pretty much ur inventory there. there is just different rankings of all of them. that felt pretty limited to me. bring back the "u can use anything in the game as a weapon." next up, a bigger, more dramatic, branching storyline. storyline was very linear and predictable, but it wasnt horrible. i mean, i played through the game quickly to see what happened next, i admit. but it needs to be longer and have twists that will suprise me. (SPOILERS!) i knew from the start that maze was gunna be bad, u can just tell in this game. and for branching, i dont want like fifty different paths u can choose, just like 3 maybe. so that the story can have more emphasis on your alignment. alignment should most definitly have a bigger part in this game. maybe like when u kill whisper, have the remainder of the story have more emphasis on thunder getting his revenge. multiplayer would be nice but i dont expect it. AND DRAGONS! WHAT KIND OF FANTASY GAME DOESNT HAVE DRAGONS!!! and how bout a hotter chick as your rival, i dont know about u guys, but whisper wasnt my type. i love the amount of rpg in the game, not too much, and not too little. im glad it turned out as an adventure game. but most of all, the thing that i want most, is a bigger world for me to explore, exploring is the best part of an adventure game.

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I agree about whisper I didnt really like her at all. I liked briar rose or what ever her name was better. Perhaps I would have thought twice about killing her. Whisper just got on my nerves.

1. Id like to see a longer game right off the bat. I never heard anyone say fable was to long. I could have played a 40hour long quest with ease.I think making the world bigger would help this out alot. The whole linear path thing felt to confining.

2. more equipment I see that guy when you start up fable that sticks his sword in the ground he looks sweet. But can we even make our guy look like him nope. most of the gear is color swap stuff bright,norm,dark.

3. Random quest would be cool and would add to replay after the main story is over. Random kidnapings or thiefs or something.

4. More monsters. why let a player read about dragons in a book but never run across one that was cheap.

5. Fishing could have been much more fun. With alittle analog control like fishing games it could have added so much depth.Being able to buy boats would have been sweet even if you could only take it out to go fishing. Free roaming with the boats would have been a dream.

6. more NPC actions the actions get old really fast. If your really evil people should run in their houses and close their doors and shutters in fear.And if your maxed good they should throw flowers at your feet or something.That would be sweet.

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Sep 22, 04 at 12:49pm
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I just want the openess of morrowind combined with look and fun of Fable for the next one.

See the thing is after reading a speech Peter M. gave Fable turned out to be just what he wanted it to be. A RPG for people who don't play RPGs. he talked alot how game companys need to spend more time on making games that people who are not gamers can play. I am not some hard core game guy but still I hope Fable 2 is made a bit more in line with what you should get with a classic rpg. I want my guy to look like the way I dream of not what some lame card can give me. Plus get rid of the hair going gray crap, he is only 30 and he looks 60.

I enjoy Fable and think its a very good game but with the time they took working on it could have been so much more.

Plus the next one better not take 4 more years. KOTOR 2 is coming out only a year or so later then the first one and it looks amazing.

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Sep 22, 04 at 1:29pm
re: Fable 2 Ideas

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1. Id like to see a longer game right off the bat. I never heard anyone say fable was to long. I could have played a 40hour long quest with ease.I think making the world bigger would help this out alot. The whole linear path thing felt to confining.

2. more equipment I see that guy when you start up fable that sticks his sword in the ground he looks sweet. But can we even make our guy look like him nope. most of the gear is color swap stuff bright,norm,dark.

3. Random quest would be cool and would add to replay after the main story is over. Random kidnapings or thiefs or something.

4. More monsters. why let a player read about dragons in a book but never run across one that was cheap.

5. Fishing could have been much more fun. With alittle analog control like fishing games it could have added so much depth.Being able to buy boats would have been sweet even if you could only take it out to go fishing. Free roaming with the boats would have been a dream.

6. more NPC actions the actions get old really fast. If your really evil people should run in their houses and close their doors and shutters in fear.And if your maxed good they should throw flowers at your feet or something.That would be sweet.
Ok first of all everyone of your points has already been done in the game. Your first point makes no sense the way you typed it. You can make your guy look like the guy when you start up the game (Point 2). There is TONS of replay value after you finish the game. Collecting all the legendary weapons, silver keys, opening all the demon doors etc. PLus you can explore the whole world even more and keep buying weapons and armor(Point 3). And holy crap if you don't think there are enough monsters in Fable you got problems. It is somewhat dissapointing that there are no dragons, but hey I'd rather see a gigantic rock troll bust out of the ground (Point 4).
And dude, I was SHOCKED at how much detail they put into fishing. One of the smallest things in the game actually had a strategy to it. C'mon quite complainin' (Point 5). I however do SLIGHTLY agree with you on this point. They certainly could have made more of a dramatic emotional difference in the way the townspeople react. But there are plenty of different things they say, and different actions the people perform according to what alignment you are etc.


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Sep 22, 04 at 1:44pm
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My expectations for Fable 2, one word: Morrowind-ish.

Even tho this game looks better than Morrowind, the storyline is better than Morrowind, and the fighting controls are far better than the controls in Morrowind, but the Morrowind is still the better game. Two words: Size and Customization.

The world of Morrowind is way bigger than Albion. And even tho your actions depends on how your character looks in Fable, it would have been good to have full customization of your character. I would have made my character Albion's most sluttiest woman if I could have chosen my sex, but they just forced me to be a male. And I am Black in real life so I would have made my character Black in the game, but they forced you to be a White Male. So much for being creating your own character.

I had much higher hopes for Fable, but hopefully, they will make a Fable 2 and they will let you choose your sex and race.

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it is clearly stated everywhere that this game is not and will not be like morrowind, and for that i am thankful, i got lost in some town in morrowing in the first 20 minutes of playing, got frustrated and attacked some people. i was thrown in jail and havent played the game since. the game is overwhelmingly huge. and there is too much rpg in it. sort of uncool how just about every plant and animal has some item on it that u can use. overwhelming as hell. the openess about morrowind is the only good factor, the ability to explore. thats what this game needs, big feilds next to a small farm, with tall grass and balverines lying in wait to ambush you. dark woody areas without paths, and more like a forest, with more balverines waiting to attack. a castle fortress on a hill, in the middle of huge grassy plains. deep caverns, cut into a huge snowy mountain, home to dragons and other beasts of the air. k im done but u get the point, this game makes u want more, and large landscapes can deliver what u want.

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Sep 22, 04 at 3:21pm
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well all i would have to say is for there to be no loading and to not get white hair so fast

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Sep 22, 04 at 4:44pm
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If Lionhead does make Fable 2 it shouldnt even take as long to make as it did Fable. They have the graphics engine and they can use that. We can only hope they put open ended enviroments in the game like Morrowind.



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More harder and more side quests and longer main quests. Thats my only negative comments on Fable.

Make it more harder by making the health potions heal less and don't make Ressurection values and Health potions so abundent.

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My expectations for Fable 2, one word: Morrowind-ish.

Even tho this game looks better than Morrowind, the storyline is better than Morrowind, and the fighting controls are far better than the controls in Morrowind, but the Morrowind is still the better game. Two words: Size and Customization.

The world of Morrowind is way bigger than Albion. And even tho your actions depends on how your character looks in Fable, it would have been good to have full customization of your character. I would have made my character Albion's most sluttiest woman if I could have chosen my sex, but they just forced me to be a male. And I am Black in real life so I would have made my character Black in the game, but they forced you to be a White Male. So much for being creating your own character.

I had much higher hopes for Fable, but hopefully, they will make a Fable 2 and they will let you choose your sex and race.
Alot of good points. But Fable isn't about making a character, it's about molding one.



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Sep 22, 04 at 4:52pm
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it would be cool if you had a horse to ride like in the old legend of zelda for n64, also if there were other bandits with horses who you fought, being able to shoot them off a horse with an arrow when they charge you, or slashing them off a horse when they came at you would be cool. Like when you dodge with the Y button..... picture a bandit on horse comming at you while u dive outta the way and then shoot him off with your arrow, then fight him with your sword. :-D
Um... if you wanted a game like that why dont you just go play Ocarina of Time again

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Sep 22, 04 at 5:40pm
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alot of people on this issue have very good points and if you grouped all of them together you would have the best action/rpg development teams of all time but it all boils down to one simple tidbit. I really dont think the game devlopment technology is there yet; Fable in itself is one amazing work of art, never before (except maybe in KOTOR to an extent) has a game imersed a player in a world so deep i mean this game set a lot of firsts or close seconds. Of course there are going to be things that are not going to be perfect, no game is, but not for the fact that lionhead or bluebox didnt think about it, its because the shear programing and logic involved in putting feature such as deeper romance and alignment factors is just not within our grasps... yet. Personally i think that all the ideas that everyone has about making fable 2 will be implemented but you have to let technology catch up to creativity; I would like to see a fable 2 but i would like to see it done right with alot more features and i would gladly wait the 4 years for a sequel on X-Box2. the standard X-Box disc (not to meantion the machine) could not even support a game with this much logic and AI. With a game like Fable 2 (and i go by the base of fable one and most of the features stated here) the shear file size would be in the 15-20 GB range if done right. But the storyline should have been better; one thing that all the technology in the world couldnt help; i mean when i got this game and i had it reserved, I was expecting EPIC like FFX epic just without the linear storyline, i think for an Action/RPG with this kind of hype surrounding it, this thing should have gripped me like a shakespearean Tragedy, but it didnt, and screw the shortness of the game, screw the lack of exploration and the repeditive expression "hello my dearest husband" this one let me down in the storyline department. This could be and already is one of microsofts cash cows but if they crank out another sequel in like a year its gonna be bunk, and you know how many people will loathe the name Fable.

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