all the help that i can offer is that when your hurting, take a break. if your legs are hurting from skating for a long time, id say thats pretty normal. its annoying to me. i was able to land kickflips all the time and now i cant at all anymore.

hurt as in viens like tigheten and my muscles and like my legs are basically locked.
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i can kickflip, im just saying i can do it much cleaner .

well, if that happens, then i guess its pretty obvious to stop. but maybe take breaks in between. or dont skate as hard. i would think its something natural. just like how my knees are all messed up. i feel like they're tweaked.

Ok so I've wanted to learn how to skate for years now I just don't know how to start. Any tips? I can kinda ollie but that's about it. Oh and I can drop in on a half pipe but once I get to the other side and start coming back, I eat shit lol

aha you eat shit cause youre not used to be as balance going backwars as going front.
but you should learn how to rotate or revert so your facing towards the other half.

if you wanna learn, make sure you have a decent board to practice on.

practice your ollies untill your satisfied or think that its decent enough.

if you need help on ollies ,ask

once you do that, try pop shove its, or jsut shove its.
which is like rotating your board 180 degrees with you catching it.

Shove It's are a nice easy tricks to learn, do them BS (push infront of you) because loads of people have difficulty with FS ones.

Just think of it as you throwing your board forward and you jumping with it. Pretty much anyone has the potential to learnt to shove it because there is no pop from an Ollie needed, just a basic amount of balance and the ability to fling the board forward.

Not much else I can say, practise the flinging motion and landing with your front foot on, that should be relatively simple and not scary. Next progress to jumping with the board and you should learn them speedily.

everyone learns at their own speeed.
if you cant get anything down, dont give up.
just keep going, or give it a rest and watch some pros or even your friends do it.

pop shove it's include a "pop" where its like the pop of an ollie, but wtill a shove it.
a shove it, is a all air no pop 180.

basically pop=pop shovit, no pop=shove it

No no, a shove it is just basically scooping your board around without the pop. Uh, here is an example: ok, this is ridiculous, but lets say you have a pencil. You lay it down on the table and then scoop it around in a 180 spin. There was no pop occurring so it was a shove it. You follow me?

i didnt understand that ^^^^ but i know what your getting at.

But N00b Killer, thats BARELY like it.
i mean, the air thing is right, but you dont nessicacasciasfcasrelly need to go off something.

its just , if you tap the board its a pop
if its all air regular.

got me?

basically all you gotta do is just, sorta pretend like your gonna chuck the board to your side or something like that. you just kinda, shove it. i guess thats why they named it that eh? and your gonna wanna do a bs shove it. so that means you want it to spin in front of you. and if you can stand fakie, learn it in fakie first. i always found it easier.