Topic: Character Rating House & Advice ~Nr. 7~
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can u feel the powerGIVE IT UP OR LIVE IT UPforum native    since: Sep 2007
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 May 18, 08 at 7:46am
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i rate u a 7.0 
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OnionKnight
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 May 18, 08 at 12:53pm
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quote Krux
I'm in the process of doing your rating Krux. I'll pm you when its done.
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KruxSupervillainmad messenger   total posts: 275 since: Feb 2008
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 May 18, 08 at 9:26pm
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quote Krux
I'm in the process of doing your rating Krux. I'll pm you when its done. @CUFTP: thnx  @Onionknight: tyvm  I would especially like good advice on the elements with weapons and armor I have to wait til lvl 90 to get cuz when I planned what to get with this char I really only got as far as the first million after I reach lvl 75. If you know any good order in whcih to get the stuff youll recommend thatd be top hole too.
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OnionKnight
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 May 19, 08 at 11:45pm
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Rating for Krux's character Robin Weapons: 4/8
Guardian Blade; You should have Blade of Awe by now. Drop everything else and just go to 'Crossroads -> Somewhere or the Battle Chamber in Isle D'Oriens until you have it. Unfortunately the Haunted House is unavailable at the moment. Apparently the Battle Chamber is supposed to have the same chance of getting it as in the Haunted House, 33% after 3 battles. However I'm not so sure. My secondary character is trying to get it at the moment, and I've found the Shiny Treasure Chest twice out of 10 times and both times it's just contained potions, with the rare loot already taken. So yeah I know getting it is an ordeal, but keep at it and it'll be worth it in the end. Soul Katana; Not bad. Could have been upgraded to Power Katana at 70 or even Bad-Axe at 65. You now have a choice: get Power Katana now and use it until you get Mjollnir, or wait until level 80 and get Brilhado Blade (you could possibly get Bad-Axe for use until 80). Brilhado Blade will be better than Power Katana until around level 100. It's not advised to get both so you can save gold. Somewhat depends on when you think you'll be able to get Mjollnir. Personally I'd skip Power Katana and go for Brilhado Blade because it has 5% more BtH which you will find useful considering your DEX. Fyre Force; Okay. Could've been upgraded to Fyre Force Ultimate at level 70. Again, you have a choice here. You could get Fyre Force Ultimate now for use until level 95 or you could wait until level 78 and get Conflagration Brand. Conflagration Brand is far more powerful (about 15-20 points of AvgDmgPerTurn extra in most armours) but is also over 10 times the price of FFU at 80,000. Conflagration Brand is the better option IMO. Whichever one you choose, it'll be replaced by Sun Sickle(95). Dread Pirate's Cutlass; Good. Replace with Captain's Hook(78) followed by Tsunami Edge when you can afford it. Fist of Legend; Far too gimmicky for my liking, and Blade of Awe is the only earth weapon you need. Replace with Edge of Unity(60) as you need a light weapon. That should last you until Golden Axe when you can afford it. Elite Ice Katana; Perfect! Tongue of Stragath; Great! Will easily keep you happy until you can afford Shadowspear, and allows Shadowspear to be one of the last ubers you buy, as Tongue of Stragath's power is not far behind it. You are missing a wind weapon. Pick up Fenris Gasher at level 75 followed by The Exterminator(85) and finally Ragebreaker. Summary Reasonable selection of weapons, but work definitely to be done. You are in the period of transition towards ubers and should be looking to pick up the final stepping stones towards them in the coming levels. First priority is getting the Blade of Awe, followed by getting a wind and a light weapon.
Armours: 4/8
DragonSlayer; Good but the extra benefits of Golden DragonSlayer Eclipse for a bit of extra cash wouldn't go amiss. Male Drakel Disguise; Good. Best multi-purpose armour until ubers, and should be kept even with ubers as a Ranged Converter. Primal Garb; Perfect! Mountain Cudgel Gi; Good. You are missing other class armours, including the most important one of all. Get Obsidian Cloak right away. You should also add Berserker Hides and Golden Holy Armor. Almost time to get your first uber armour. Reign Plate is a good choice for a warrior and looking at your strategy it looks doable. It'd be a good idea to charge up Call Forth the Fire Dragon for use at the start of the battle with Geldar. He should be easy enough once that's done. He attacks with Light mostly, and sometimes with a multi-element breath attack. You might encounter some pretty tough enemies on the way or fail the stat rolls, but just hope for the best and keep at it. Follow this then this to get there. In the rooms before a full heal you can go all out with Undead Mutant, but the rooms without a full heal after are the times to play it safe, make use of Eye of Naab and save MP for Heal Wounds in case you need it. Unless you are against getting sets which are not the very top tier for that type of set (As I am in general, I just think ubers are such a lot of money for a stepping stone, though on the other hand the sellbacks are pretty high. I might have gotten Valhallan had I been a lower level when it came out, now that I think about it.), you should also consider Valhallan Plate, which is a more all-round uber, with better defences and a bit less offence than Reign, especially if you're having trouble with the Reign quest. I haven't actually done the Thunder Mountain quest myself yet, but it's a full heal every 2 battles and the boss doesn't look too difficult. Summary You have the bare necessities as well as some useful class armours. You are missing the most important class armour of all and could do with a few others though. Decide on your first uber and go for it.
Shields: 6/8
NerfLord's Crest; Nice. Just about better than Monster Claw as an all-round shield because of its special ability. Dragonslayer Shield; Great. Invisible Shield; Okay. Consider replacing with Dreamcatcher for greater elemental resistances with only a small decrease in Magic Defence. Crystal Magic; Good. As is Ultimus (750 tokens). And Eye of Naab. Zephyr is optional. Time to get Nemesis Shield, which will make most of your other shields pretty much redundant except for Eye of Naab and the offensive ones (also Zephyr if you get it, which has -20% wind). Generally it is always the first uber to get, but NerfLord's Crest will probably be adequate if you want to get Reign Plate first. But get it soon anyway. IronThorn is also a very important addition to help future farming for ubers. Get it after your first uber armour and Nemesis Shield. After that your order for the other uber shields is as follows: Sackelberry Special -> Golden Shield -> Reign Defender -> Siege Tower Shield -> Spellblocker -> Shadowbones -> Asgardian Shield. Summary Good selection of shields for now, you've done a good job of not overspending in order to save for ubers. Grab Eye of Naab and Ultimus which will last you for a very long time. Nemesis Shield will be your first uber, then IronThorn.
Spells: 4/8
Charm; Great. Grab the level 75 version after your next level up. Heal Wounds; Great. Upgrade to Heal Deep Wounds at level 80, Heal Extreme Wounds at 100 and finally Heal Mortal Wounds at 120. Pick up Summon Galrick, Summon Giliara, Summon Eldron and Summon Krenos(70) followed by Summon Krenos(90). The final two slots are optional, there are not really any standout spells other than ones already listed. Options include Summon Squirrel, Summon Pixie, Summon Diviara, Summon Black Widow Brain Spider, Summon DoomQuake Minions (costs Z-Tokens) or Scrambler Beam. Summary On the right track, time to just fill up with Summons for all situations and update your current spells with higher levelled versions.
Pets: 4/8
Nerfkitten; Great. Upgrade at level 90. Razorclaw; Perfect! Little Death; Perfect! Void Drayk; Top void pet. Can replace the slot for water pets, which are generally the weakest element for beastmaster pets. Octopirate is something to consider though (ice/water pet). Red Muhrble(70) to be upgraded to Red Muhrble(90) Blue Muhrble(70) followed by level 90 version. Yellow Muhrble(70) is a stepping stone to Asgardian Lion(90). Finally grab Keeshish-Kin(75) followed by the level 100 version (most powerful pet in the game). Summary The pets you have are great, just a case of filling up the slots and upgrading to higher levelled versions of your current pets.
Misc. Items: 6/8
Head of Raydius Dragon; Perfect. Pet Whistle; Perfect. Koofu Kaller; Perfect. Helm of Drakonnan; Good. Helm of Drakonnas; Good. I trust you know the merits of Everfrozen Shard and Urn of Daryngord (the Urn will render the two helms obsolete) but also their huge price tag. Warrior's Edge is a cheaper way to more melee resistance without Everfrozen Shard. Great against trolls. Leech Head is good for a beastmasters. Offers +15 CHA along with some other nice bonuses. Round out the list with the elemental orbs. The most important ones are Light Orb, Wind Orb, Dark Orb and Ice Orb in that order probably. But you could also get Fire Orb and Energy Orb to store in case they're needed and if you can afford them. Summary Good set of Misc. Items. Main thing missing is extra melee defence.
Stats: 9/10
Great "Power" BeastWarrior. Interesting and fun build in my experience, especially with the extreme lack of DEX. Stats in all the right places and none of the wrong places. All stat points used. It'd be a good idea to untrain END to 50 sometime soon.
Total Score: 37/58 Final Score: 6/10
Final Words
This is a character you can be proud of. You're in the difficult transition phase towards ubers where there is a lot of change and a lot of stepping stones. But so far your character shows great potential and has saved up a good amount for ubers at an early stage by buying the bare necessities.
Any questions at all regarding the rating or anything else, don't hesitate to pm me.
Rated by: ~OnionKnight
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pizzakingPK the honerable watch 'ya' call itsubmission happy    total posts: 135 since: Mar 2008
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 May 20, 08 at 1:49am
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DracianeWater Goddessmad messenger   total posts: 333 since: Jan 2008
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 May 20, 08 at 6:11am
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Wow OnionKnight, you're rating like a pro. I never was the kind of guy who write a big detailled rating. i'll stick with the advice part, and simple rating.
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OnionKnight
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 May 20, 08 at 7:14am
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Thanks . I tend not to do them too often, as I'm so meticulous with getting all my facts right and formatting it all correctly and stuff that they take me hours, but I enjoy doing them from time to time. Helps me get more knowledge of the game by forcing me to research stuff and I enjoy the satisfaction of showing someone the way when they didn't know what to do before.
Pizzaking, I'll do it when I get time and pm you when its done. Should be sometime next week.
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KruxSupervillainmad messenger   total posts: 275 since: Feb 2008
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 May 20, 08 at 9:01am
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quote OnionKnight
Rating for Krux's character Robin Weapons: 4/8
Guardian Blade; You should have Blade of Awe by now. Drop everything else and just go to 'Crossroads -> Somewhere or the Battle Chamber in Isle D'Oriens until you have it. Unfortunately the Haunted House is unavailable at the moment. Apparently the Battle Chamber is supposed to have the same chance of getting it as in the Haunted House, 33% after 3 battles. However I'm not so sure. My secondary character is trying to get it at the moment, and I've found the Shiny Treasure Chest twice out of 10 times and both times it's just contained potions, with the rare loot already taken. So yeah I know getting it is an ordeal, but keep at it and it'll be worth it in the end. Soul Katana; Not bad. Could have been upgraded to Power Katana at 70 or even Bad-Axe at 65. You now have a choice: get Power Katana now and use it until you get Mjollnir, or wait until level 80 and get Brilhado Blade (you could possibly get Bad-Axe for use until 80). Brilhado Blade will be better than Power Katana until around level 100. It's not advised to get both so you can save gold. Somewhat depends on when you think you'll be able to get Mjollnir. Personally I'd skip Power Katana and go for Brilhado Blade because it has 5% more BtH which you will find useful considering your DEX. Fyre Force; Okay. Could've been upgraded to Fyre Force Ultimate at level 70. Again, you have a choice here. You could get Fyre Force Ultimate now for use until level 95 or you could wait until level 78 and get Conflagration Brand. Conflagration Brand is far more powerful (about 15-20 points of AvgDmgPerTurn extra in most armours) but is also over 10 times the price of FFU at 80,000. Conflagration Brand is the better option IMO. Whichever one you choose, it'll be replaced by Sun Sickle(95). Dread Pirate's Cutlass; Good. Replace with Captain's Hook(78) followed by Tsunami Edge when you can afford it. Fist of Legend; Far too gimmicky for my liking, and Blade of Awe is the only earth weapon you need. Replace with Edge of Unity(60) as you need a light weapon. That should last you until Golden Axe when you can afford it. Elite Ice Katana; Perfect! Tongue of Stragath; Great! Will easily keep you happy until you can afford Shadowspear, and allows Shadowspear to be one of the last ubers you buy, as Tongue of Stragath's power is not far behind it. You are missing a wind weapon. Pick up Fenris Gasher at level 75 followed by The Exterminator(85) and finally Ragebreaker. Summary Reasonable selection of weapons, but work definitely to be done. You are in the period of transition towards ubers and should be looking to pick up the final stepping stones towards them in the coming levels. First priority is getting the Blade of Awe, followed by getting a wind and a light weapon.
Armours: 4/8
DragonSlayer; Good but the extra benefits of Golden DragonSlayer Eclipse for a bit of extra cash wouldn't go amiss. Male Drakel Disguise; Good. Best multi-purpose armour until ubers, and should be kept even with ubers as a Ranged Converter. Primal Garb; Perfect! Mountain Cudgel Gi; Good. You are missing other class armours, including the most important one of all. Get Obsidian Cloak right away. You should also add Berserker Hides and Golden Holy Armor. Almost time to get your first uber armour. Reign Plate is a good choice for a warrior and looking at your strategy it looks doable. It'd be a good idea to charge up Call Forth the Fire Dragon for use at the start of the battle with Geldar. He should be easy enough once that's done. He attacks with Light mostly, and sometimes with a multi-element breath attack. You might encounter some pretty tough enemies on the way or fail the stat rolls, but just hope for the best and keep at it. Follow this then this to get there. In the rooms before a full heal you can go all out with Undead Mutant, but the rooms without a full heal after are the times to play it safe, make use of Eye of Naab and save MP for Heal Wounds in case you need it. Unless you are against getting sets which are not the very top tier for that type of set (As I am in general, I just think ubers are such a lot of money for a stepping stone, though on the other hand the sellbacks are pretty high. I might have gotten Valhallan had I been a lower level when it came out, now that I think about it.), you should also consider Valhallan Plate, which is a more all-round uber, with better defences and a bit less offence than Reign, especially if you're having trouble with the Reign quest. I haven't actually done the Thunder Mountain quest myself yet, but it's a full heal every 2 battles and the boss doesn't look too difficult. Summary You have the bare necessities as well as some useful class armours. You are missing the most important class armour of all and could do with a few others though. Decide on your first uber and go for it.
Shields: 6/8
NerfLord's Crest; Nice. Just about better than Monster Claw as an all-round shield because of its special ability. Dragonslayer Shield; Great. Invisible Shield; Okay. Consider replacing with Dreamcatcher for greater elemental resistances with only a small decrease in Magic Defence. Crystal Magic; Good. As is Ultimus (750 tokens). And Eye of Naab. Zephyr is optional. Time to get Nemesis Shield, which will make most of your other shields pretty much redundant except for Eye of Naab and the offensive ones (also Zephyr if you get it, which has -20% wind). Generally it is always the first uber to get, but NerfLord's Crest will probably be adequate if you want to get Reign Plate first. But get it soon anyway. IronThorn is also a very important addition to help future farming for ubers. Get it after your first uber armour and Nemesis Shield. After that your order for the other uber shields is as follows: Sackelberry Special -> Golden Shield -> Reign Defender -> Siege Tower Shield -> Spellblocker -> Shadowbones -> Asgardian Shield. Summary Good selection of shields for now, you've done a good job of not overspending in order to save for ubers. Grab Eye of Naab and Ultimus which will last you for a very long time. Nemesis Shield will be your first uber, then IronThorn.
Spells: 4/8
Charm; Great. Grab the level 75 version after your next level up. Heal Wounds; Great. Upgrade to Heal Deep Wounds at level 80, Heal Extreme Wounds at 100 and finally Heal Mortal Wounds at 120. Pick up Summon Galrick, Summon Giliara, Summon Eldron and Summon Krenos(70) followed by Summon Krenos(90). The final two slots are optional, there are not really any standout spells other than ones already listed. Options include Summon Squirrel, Summon Pixie, Summon Diviara, Summon Black Widow Brain Spider, Summon DoomQuake Minions (costs Z-Tokens) or Scrambler Beam. Summary On the right track, time to just fill up with Summons for all situations and update your current spells with higher levelled versions.
Pets: 4/8
Nerfkitten; Great. Upgrade at level 90. Razorclaw; Perfect! Little Death; Perfect! Void Drayk; Top void pet. Can replace the slot for water pets, which are generally the weakest element for beastmaster pets. Octopirate is something to consider though (ice/water pet). Red Muhrble(70) to be upgraded to Red Muhrble(90) Blue Muhrble(70) followed by level 90 version. Yellow Muhrble(70) is a stepping stone to Asgardian Lion(90). Finally grab Keeshish-Kin(75) followed by the level 100 version (most powerful pet in the game). Summary The pets you have are great, just a case of filling up the slots and upgrading to higher levelled versions of your current pets.
Misc. Items: 6/8
Head of Raydius Dragon; Perfect. Pet Whistle; Perfect. Koofu Kaller; Perfect. Helm of Drakonnan; Good. Helm of Drakonnas; Good. I trust you know the merits of Everfrozen Shard and Urn of Daryngord (the Urn will render the two helms obsolete) but also their huge price tag. Warrior's Edge is a cheaper way to more melee resistance without Everfrozen Shard. Great against trolls. Leech Head is good for a beastmasters. Offers +15 CHA along with some other nice bonuses. Round out the list with the elemental orbs. The most important ones are Light Orb, Wind Orb, Dark Orb and Ice Orb in that order probably. But you could also get Fire Orb and Energy Orb to store in case they're needed and if you can afford them. Summary Good set of Misc. Items. Main thing missing is extra melee defence.
Stats: 9/10
Great "Power" BeastWarrior. Interesting and fun build in my experience, especially with the extreme lack of DEX. Stats in all the right places and none of the wrong places. All stat points used. It'd be a good idea to untrain END to 50 sometime soon.
Total Score: 37/58 Final Score: 6/10
Final Words
This is a character you can be proud of. You're in the difficult transition phase towards ubers where there is a lot of change and a lot of stepping stones. But so far your character shows great potential and has saved up a good amount for ubers at an early stage by buying the bare necessities.
Any questions at all regarding the rating or anything else, don't hesitate to pm me.
Rated by: ~OnionKnight
WOW! This rate was all I could ever hope for. Your absolutely right in me beeing cheap with this character. I dont think Ive "wasted" more then 10 000 gold on this char. Other then two major flaws which was time cookie (sold it right away) and fist of legend which I bought on a whim but am Intending to keep just for looks. Im also getting second thoughts about tounge of stragath since its fire special is WAY more common then I had initially thought (I dont think I even looked since I presumed it would be 20% or lower). Instead Im thinking about making my custum weapon darkness and selling the tounge. I know about blade of awe  its pathetic I havnt taken the time to get it yet. Im still hestiant about buying stepping stones... but a fire and wind step is gonna have to be neccasary I think. Nemesis will probably be neccasary too. I had hoped to avoid that. The pets stepping stones Im pretty sure I wont bother with since I use only times I dont us nerfkitten is if I gain a 100% elm dmg by using another. And in my "hard fights" the four nerfs I require before I change pet rarely have time to happen before the monster is dead. So I think Ill wait til I get pets strong enough to make wating for the nerfs uneccasary. I also am a bit ashemed of how sucky my class record is  Ill be fixing that as a way of farming exp when I have my first über armor. Again thanx a bunch for the very fine rating. And sorry if you rating me like this is gonna get you run down with rate requests  .
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Suicide AngelFormerly Suicide AngelHooked on Neo    neopoints: 486 since: Feb 2006
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 May 20, 08 at 9:20am
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Wow, that was a Nice Rating OnionKnight. If you find time, could you do mine?
I just obtained Nemesis and Golden Shield, reached level 99. Finally almost to 100 (Yeah I know the cap is 130)
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Btw, Drax, I appreciate your ratings, but I always bother you with them, and I'd like another opinion too.
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DracianeWater Goddessmad messenger   total posts: 333 since: Jan 2008
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 May 20, 08 at 9:55am
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Thats why I never do big rating. You get tons of request after that, which eat too much times 
Well for a very short rating, I give you 9/10. You get everything a mage may need. Now continue to farm just to get every uber possible.
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pizzakingPK the honerable watch 'ya' call itsubmission happy    total posts: 135 since: Mar 2008
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 May 20, 08 at 9:56am
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drax has left and i asked onionknight for a rating first 
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Suicide AngelFormerly Suicide AngelHooked on Neo    neopoints: 486 since: Feb 2006
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 May 20, 08 at 10:04am
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Lol, so he can rate yours first. I don't mind.
Why'd Drax leave? He was a big part of this forum.
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pizzakingPK the honerable watch 'ya' call itsubmission happy    total posts: 135 since: Mar 2008
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 May 20, 08 at 10:22am
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look in the goodbye and returning thread his last post is in there i dont know why he eft he just... did
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OnionKnight
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 May 20, 08 at 10:58am
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WOW! This rate was all I could ever hope for. Your absolutely right in me beeing cheap with this character. I dont think Ive "wasted" more then 10 000 gold on this char. Other then two major flaws which was time cookie (sold it right away) and fist of legend which I bought on a whim but am Intending to keep just for looks. Im also getting second thoughts about tounge of stragath since its fire special is WAY more common then I had initially thought (I dont think I even looked since I presumed it would be 20% or lower). Instead Im thinking about making my custum weapon darkness and selling the tounge. Damn, I didn't realise that about Tongue of Stragath. I was looking at the damage charts just wondering how it got so close to Shadowspear for less than a tenth of the price. Now I know; fire special which drains your health too. Maybe it just tells you that Shadowspear is one of the first uber weapons to get?
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Im still hestiant about buying stepping stones... but a fire and wind step is gonna have to be neccasary I think. Nemesis will probably be neccasary too. I had hoped to avoid that. The pets stepping stones Im pretty sure I wont bother with since I use only times I dont us nerfkitten is if I gain a 100% elm dmg by using another. And in my "hard fights" the four nerfs I require before I change pet rarely have time to happen before the monster is dead. So I think Ill wait til I get pets strong enough to make wating for the nerfs uneccasary. I also am a bit ashemed of how sucky my class record is  Ill be fixing that as a way of farming exp when I have my first über armor. That's a good idea, but make sure you get Necromancer before ubers. Because it will help in the quests. Are you going to get Nemesis Plate or just the shield?
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Again thanx a bunch for the very fine rating. And sorry if you rating me like this is gonna get you run down with rate requests  . Yeah looks like it has already .
I appreciate the nice feedback guys, it's why I do these things. Suicide Angel and pizzaking, expect one at the weekend or during the next week; I have exams this week but have a week off next week.
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pizzakingPK the honerable watch 'ya' call itsubmission happy    total posts: 135 since: Mar 2008
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 May 20, 08 at 11:16am
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in england we already had our exams good luck are they your sats? thanx for saying ur going to rate me it really means alot hope you dont bore urself to deathwith ur exams! lol 
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