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Jun 19, 02 at 11:43pm
Warcraft 3 And Starcraft

IS WArcraft 3 like Starcraft??? IS it better??? If it is like starcraft then is it in the Future,Modern, or past?? Also whats the maxium units you can make??

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Jun 20, 02 at 1:47am
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Note: Final Version has been released. I just purchased one.

Warcraft 3 is more like a fantasy type version of Starcraft mixed with some principles of Battle Realms. Believe it or not, each race has a resemblance in capabilities with respect to Starcraft's races, as well as Battle Realms. There's no battle gear but the upgrades are still there.

I don't think Blizzard mixed up Starcraft and Warcraft 3 much. They just used the different characteristics of Starcraft's races to liven up and make things more enticing for Warcraft 3. They wouldn't go too far as to detach themselves from Warcraft and Warcraft 2.

I will be playing this game later.. so, I'll tell ya more. Also, the graphics are more 3D than Starcraft and Warcraft 2. They outdid themselves in this release.. but not that much.. There's more detail into the characters.


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Jun 20, 02 at 1:57am
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Sound pretty cool but you can only make 90 units?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!? In starcraft sometimes i wish i could make more than 200...

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i belive so. i dont have it but i read it at blizzard.com. the creator said and i quote
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we reduced the units to make the game more challenging.


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Jun 20, 02 at 2:12am
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I've played the game and I don't think you need more than 90 units. 90 is quite enough with the power that they have..


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In Star Craft and Warcraft 2 I always found myself exceeding the limit of chracters real fast but I guess I can live with the reduced characters. I just like a huge army.



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Jun 20, 02 at 7:32am
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I like building a big army as well, but from the times that I've played WC3, I didn't need a big army to satisfy my taste.. and I bet there'll be a cheat to add more units.


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Yeah probably but I can get used to the smaller units anyway so it desn't matter much to me. I worry more on the battles and stuff like that.



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Well, if you've tried the beta version, you would be mesmerized by the battle actions. The movements of the characters/units are quite smooth and the actions are varied. Hehehe.. I love it when the Orcs and humans try to kill each other!

Starcraft has limited movements for their units which is why it can get boring sometimes. The gunfire of the marines are too monotonous.. brat-at-at-at..brat-at-at-at.. It's always like that..


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I actually tried the beta version and was quite impressed by it. I feel it is much better then Warcraft 3 it seems Blizzard just keeps getting better and better the wait is well worth it.

Edit- Starcraft=Warcraft 3(man I get confused)


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Jun 20, 02 at 9:29am
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Yeah! Definitely better than Starcraft. I'm wonderin' what they're planning for Starcraft 2. Hehehe.. The beta version was fine, but you could only play on a multiplayer mode. The full version allows you to go on campaigns already.

I wasn't able to have the beta version of Starcraft, so I wouldn't know what it was like.

Another advantage that WC3 has over SC is the fact there are great effects! And there are neutral units and buildings that your units can interact with.

And has anyone tried the WorldMap Editor? SC's editor is like putty compared to that!


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And has anyone tried the WorldMap Editor? SC's editor is like putty compared to that!
if i could only get my hands around your neck i'd squeeze so hard... muahahaha
i have made campaigns for virtually all strategy games blizzard and microsoft has made + more. and till now i wish all adopt the SC map editor. it just very flexible and VERY basic. it just needs a little technicality and *snaps finger* maps made like that. *snaps fingers* a month or two. several maps *snaps fingers once more* in a year, a whole 16 leveled campaign. with 8 bonus levels, my own voice. an edited picture of me. and whatnot. SC map rules.
but perhaps WC3 editor does beat SC.

90 UNIT! that's outrageous. i need 90 to defend. 20-30 to attack. what pathetic numbers
i'm sure they have reason, or maybe that was only in the beta. why 90? why not make it 100? personally though, i don't mind low unit limits as long as the computer is also held back by those same limits.

and you lot obviously don't play strategy games often. besides DCTamer. get to play more strategy games numbers is nothing. it's how you use what little you have, effectively. cannon fodder or serious hit and run strategies.

i'm more of a get lots of resource sources. send in wave after wave each cannon fodder and hope your enemy doesnt finish you off... ofcourse i also use waypoints should they be provided.

(damn i just finished my AOE2 guide 95% a little more. so right now i'm kinda hyped with writing crap about strategies. i was hyped yesterday too which should explain my gen discusion post)


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Jun 20, 02 at 9:38pm
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Still 90 units max is pathetic... I like Stragey games but i like Stragey games with Big armies. THats why my Fav. strategy game is "cossacks Art of WAr expansion" in which you can make thousands of troops and selecet thousands of troops at a time. Cosssacks is just like Age of Empires just more maxium troops.... ALso more troops is more Realitic..
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i'm more of a get lots of resource sources. send in wave after wave each cannon fodder and hope your enemy doesnt finish you off... ofcourse i also use waypoints should they be provided.
Yes! That's my favorite and usual strat as well. But I do like to rush sometimes at multiplayer games. I haven't explored the waypoints for WC3 yet, but I think they have a different shortcut for making them.

As for the population limit. I prefer large sizes as well, but since there are only a few, I'd make with that for a while. I think Blizzard will be increasing that size later on, with the version upgrades/patches.

Wasn't it that WC2 had a population cap of 200? I forget.. or was that SC? I played last night and I really wanted to make more units coz I was havin' fun with my opponent.. bwahahaha!!


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Jun 21, 02 at 6:21am
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both WC2 and SC had 200 unit pop cap.
or WC3 may have had 150, but not likely.

yes, rushing but ofcourse you give your opponenet some time to build his defenses. attack him once or twice just to get on his nerves and make him forget about attacking you

is there garrisoning in the game? WC3? or populating?1
and do builders, villagers whatever count towards your 90 pop? or do they have a seperate pop?

ok ok, i'll stop asking too many questiong i'll at least try to stop saking.


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