OK let's try to read more carefully next time.

I know they have HDDVD support. My point was that they initially intended for the HDDVD support to be internal, not an external (bullshit) add-on. Because they decided to rush it and get a jump on the next gen market they had to stricken it from initial internal implementation. They later planned on XBOX360 versions with an HDDVD internal drive after launch but then decided against even that.

Tolemo, it obviously never occurred to you but Microsoft does not manufacture their own hardware. I have to refrain from using derogatory comments towards you right now. You can have all the money in the world but if the resources aren't there to manufacture these things fast enough then it's just not going to happen, and that's what is happening here now.

They are fixing the problems. too. You should read my comment about how they want quality. no one did because the time i posted it so did a lot and we skipped to the next page. Anyways if microsoft truly wanted to manufacture them fast enough they could. But guess what they dont. WHy? They want it to be quality over quantity they want to be able to make a good product, the best it can be, rather than just good and then put it out there. Your going to say then why didnt they wait to fix the problems it has now? Well those cannot be foreseen. Yes they do tes them and what not. however they dont play them and test them as much as each person plays them that gets one. They dont have the time. They have more important things to do. So bad things are bound to happen nature of life!

You do realize you're not telling me anything new, right?

Quality over quantity? Of course they are. They have to.

Where you are wrong is where you say if Microsoft wanted to manufacture them fast then the could.

Well your wrong, and you even contradicted yourself. Since they need to keep the same quality of their product to ensure that all their customers are happy they cannot expedite the manufacturing process and there aren't enough facilities with the capability to manufacture this new hardware. They are limited to the few they have now.

Nice try Tolemo. You only contradicted yourself and repeated common knowledge.

quote gamesfirst

Undoubtedly, games will grow. However, technology designed to keep them small and compact will grow as well. In many ways, the debate over Microsoft's handling of the DVD9 and HDDVD formats is simply a matter of a red herring. People see it and worry about it, but there is little data to suggest there will actually be a problem with it.

Well, I've figured it out. The Sony fanboys are just jealous because the PS2 was weak and defective compared to XBox. Then, they go do all this "internet research" just to try to prove something that will more than likely be completely different from the actual product. OOOHHHH XTRA 25 MHZ RAM U R COOL!!!! Keep on making pointless arguments, it just fits right in to what I am saying. Keep pointing out all your specs all day, nobody cares. If you wanna know what to get, go test systems at stores or see what is cool that your friends have (if you have any). Face it that the 360 is by far ahead of anything on the market or keep hoping that sony will make your dream come true .

Hazz diddy no one has been pointing out performance specs at all between these two systems.

Besides, you want to talk system specs compared to successfulness. Talk PS2 and XBOX.

The PS2 is far underpowered when compared to the XBOX but the PS2 has easily outsold the XBOX in every facet. This isn't just because of it being released sooner either. It has just been a more profitable console.

Power does not mean quality. No one has brought this up either.

You're an idiot. Try reading the posts before you say another damn thing.

i guess that did end your DVD9 bitching...

quote volacide

The PS2 is far underpowered when compared to the XBOX but the PS2 has easily outsold the XBOX in every facet. This isn't just because of it being released sooner either. It has just been a more profitable console.

Look, 360 has stuff like COD2 which are awesome and it blows the other consoles away, so until you have a PS2 with a game in it that is better than my favourite XBOX360 game at the time then stop saying 360 is rubbish, as it is the best of its generation currently

quote Cdemon

And it being a more profitable console has nothing to do with it outselling the Xbox.

could you tell us why you think the 360 sucks?

quote volacide

quote Cdemon

And it being a more profitable console has nothing to do with it outselling the Xbox.

It's more profitable and It outsold the XBOX. So what are you talking about?

quote volacide

The PS2 is far underpowered when compared to the XBOX but the PS2 has easily outsold the XBOX in every facet. This isn't just because of it being released sooner either. It has just been a more profitable console.

quote lostprophetsfan

could you tell us why you think the 360 sucks?

Sure there are.

What are you going to argue? Live? That's about all they've got going and there are clearly a lot more people perfectly fine with single player gaming judging by the PS2's lack of online connectability and their playing most games offline by themselves or with a small group of friends in multiplay.