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Let me take a random guess; you guys have fallen into the large crowd that says "I'm not doing it if nobody else is doing it".
I would help out but I've been super busy with school. As in, I don't do my homework till the night it's due so I stay up till like 4 in the morning to do it and maybe at school too so I get home pretty knackered. Also I've just restarted Cricket again so Saturdays are almost out. I promise though that I will help out again in a couple or so weeks.


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Ha! And likewise, mate. Notice how the only excuse you've given to the team is just now?
Please read through threads before you come in here pointing the finger of blame. I have stated more than once about how busy I have been and still am with school and I do like to think that I take my grades seriously. I am very pleased with Shayn as he is one of the few people who has managed to do a slight bit of work on the wiki every now and then. The Spotlight Page section is fantastic. Great job Shayn.

Kazooieman, your help will be much appreciated and good luck with your cricket. I'm a cricket player myself.

I won't lie, I am very disappointed with Simon's sudden lack of activity. It was just a couple of months ago that he was planning everything out with myself to try and get the wiki into order. When I get some free time, hopefully over the half term holidays next week, I will do as much work as possible but I'm not going to force others to work on the wiki. It is optional.


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Oct 21, 09 at 8:23pm
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Aslong as the wiki is back up and running the the near future I'm a happy man, despite not being a staff member I still care about the wiki because the contributors and staff are awesome people and do a fantastic job. (y)


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Oct 22, 09 at 5:49pm
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If any of you are to start work on the wiki again, I cannot stress how important it is to get rid of the stub pages. We need to flesh them out much much more. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.


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Categories also need to be sorted.




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Oct 24, 09 at 2:54pm
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I will get round to aorting as much out as possible. Its a shame because it seems that I am the only one who is contribtuing to the wiki apart from a few little edits here and there from a few others. Its a shame a few of the old wiki editers stopped.


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Oct 24, 09 at 3:07pm
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No.

I'm not going to let you make everyone else take the blame. Not this time. The fact is, in 2 and a half months, the only page you have worked on is the Hermione Granger page. Good page though it may be, that is absolutely ridiculous. You started contributing at the start of August, didn't for the rest of the month, didn't contribute at all in September, and only started again when Shayn encourage people not to let the project die.

And spacious edits? Please.

Benedict, nancydetective, Dragoon and Simon have all done their part when they could. But you...you're just being absolutely ridiculous.

Has it not occured to you that while you continuously spit out the excuse that you're "extremely busy", some other people may be too? That's a DAMN shame, that some people other than yourself may have busy schedules.

Think about others for once. Simon's absence I am, again, not excusing; I even said to Shayn that Simon should've at least made an announcement. But I'm not talking on behalf of Simon. I'm talking on behalf of the people you're trying to make take the blame.

Part of a staff member's job is to organise a team of dedicated contributors who will steadily add to the wiki, as well as the staff, who will also make regular contributions. Where is this team? They were contributing while you weren't, and when they realised this, they probably thought "oh what's the point" and gave up. For this wiki, Shayn and Simon have been the only ones responsible for getting a team together. You have done absolutely nothing; you've just said the same things over and over. "I'm busy", "I'll contribute soon", "I'm disappointed", "It's a shame".

Get a *bleep*ing grip, ShortMan.


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Oct 24, 09 at 3:13pm
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I am not going to force people to edit the wiki. I am not blaming them either. The fact that I have only been able to edit the Hermione Granger page is for one, that was my main project from the start and two, I have been studying for my GCSE exams at school. I have notified the contributors many times that I will be inactive but Simon hasn't even notified me. I understand if people have busy schedules and I will not force them to edit the wiki. If they are still interested in editing the wiki, they could at least notify others if they are going to be inactive. I thank Kazooieman and Wuppertal for informing me that they will be editing the wiki after they have cleared most of the schedule. Yes, Shayn has done very well with the wiki and I expect he'll do as well with other wikis.

I am not pointing the blame on anyone else. I am busy, others are busy and I understand. I am going to be contributing during the holiday and others can too if they want to.


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Oct 24, 09 at 3:36pm
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I would strongly advise both contributors and Staff to be looking more frequently at the Special Pages, sorting through things such as;
  • Wanted Pages
  • Wanted Categories
  • Uncategorised Pages
  • Wanted Templates (Which shouldn't be touched by people who don't know how to edit/make templates)
  • Unused Files
  • Wanted Pages
This will all help tidy up the wiki alot, and then people will know what categories to put what pages in instead of a constant debate into which page goes into which category which I have been seeing alot of. I know I'm not staff, and shouldn't really be telling you what to do, but since both staff members seem to be busy at the current time, someone needs to take control and to tell people what actually needs to be done on the wiki. Also pay close attention to stub pages and pages that need more information.


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Oct 24, 09 at 3:58pm
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I am going to be categorising pages as soon as possible. The wiki is a mess, I won't lie and I have said about the amount of stub pages. The amount of wanted and short pages is ridculous.

The next free time I get, I will start putting pages into Categories.


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Oct 24, 09 at 6:24pm
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I can't exagurate the importance of the point that I bolded. Please, if you have no experience with templates DO NOT attempt to make one that is needed. Please ask a contributor that knows what they're doing, be that me, Benedict or a wikiadmin. I claim to be no expert with templates, nor am I near fully understanding them, but I know enough to make simple ones, Benedict is somewhat of a genius I swear. He seems to have a much better grasp than me in next to no time, and the wikiadmins should know what they're doing with the templates. :P But seriously guys, I've seen people on the DW wiki (not naming any names or IP's) that have tried to mess with the templates, quite major ones aswell, and it's messed the wiki up phenomenally. So either learn wikicoding yourself or even better approach someone you know that is good with templates.

Chris, my post was by no means a way to make you feel pressurised into editing. I completely understand what you're going through considering I was doing the same in May, and to be honest the government were *bleep*ing stupid to start them a year earlier. However I did find some time to fulfill my duty as a Staff at that time, even if it meant just one edit a night. Personal experience tells me that Studying 24/7 is worse than no studying at all, and I found that wiki editing took my mid of the exams for a bit ad allowed me to relax a little. So although you are staff, and I do partly agree with what Luke was saying. Please understand I am doing my best to take over whilst you and Simon are studying for critical and life changing exams, but it's not all that easy.

tl;dr: Don't touch the templates w/o knowledge of how they work, and good luck Shortman and Simon1987 in your upcoming exams.


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Oct 24, 09 at 7:56pm
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Couldn't the vital templates be protected if they're being messed with?



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Oct 24, 09 at 8:04pm
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They could be, but I would rather trust people to heed what I have said and not mess with any. I had to do so on the DW wiki because major templates were being repeatedly targeted, but un-protected them soon after due to IP bans being issued. But really, contributors should be mature enough to not venture into something they don't understand.


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Nov 01, 09 at 7:10pm
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I'm making a note here; wikis are a much harder job than moderating.



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    Aaaaaaaaaand he is gone.




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