quote Zero and X

Also I dont really see how vergil is faster than sephy. i mean the dude slashes so fast sometimes you dont even see it. I mean Iam not saying Vergil is slow, but Sephy is faster. Also last time I checked, if you got hit even with 2 complete bars of life enough, Vergil dies, alot faster than Sephy. Not to mention Sephy having a numerical value of heatlh going beyond the 100,000's. It takes one hell of alot of attack power toget him down and out.

well what you said about dying faster you also need to compare to powers of dante and cloud to determine that I've never played FFVII, but I have played both KH and seen clips of AC so I think that it would be a fair fight b/c if need be Vergil would be able to get a clip on seph's wing disabling his flying (even though he can't fly remember that Vergil was quiet smart)

and what somebody said about Vergil not being able to punch through the ten-en-negru (sorry cant' remember how to sp) and seph flew through buildings the demonic tower was just that made of demon energies which I'm pretty sure is harder than stell and glassh so ya I think it would be close

But you never see him cut through a f'ing wall do you? THe closest was a statue.

quote Zero and X

But you never see him cut through a f'ing wall do you? THe closest was a statue.

You DO realise that statue was much, much thicker than your average wall, right?

quote Divine Rose

quote Fyrestorm

It's worth noting that nothing in Kingdom Hearts I or II are canon powers of Sephiroth, so if you were truly using the real him, as it were, he doesn't have them for sure.

He does use Sin Heartless Angel in Final Fantasy VII (the game).

Oh yeah, powers exhibited in both obviously he has, but anything exclusive to the KH series is non-canon, much like Vergil's extra costume powers.

Also Sephiroth does not use his wing (he only has one anyway), for flight. Throughout the entire battle in Advent Children he flies around without his wing even being visible, his powers of flight are similar to those in DBZ, omni-directional gravity-defying self-propelled movement.

Lastly Sephiroth's strength is definitely superior to Vergil's. During his fight with Cloud he is sent flying through multiple stories of a building and doesn't even flinch, he's smiling the entire time, his strength is at a level where stone and concrete and the like can be smashed effortlessly.

Good point, you throw a big rock at Vergil and if by some miracle it hits, hes gonna bleed a little and get pissed. Do that to Sephy, and he wouldnt even realize anything happened.

quote Zero and X

Omg I cant belive, this. How can you guys compare Sephiroth to Vergil if you never saw the movie or played the game? I mean seriously, all you people cant just say "Omg Vergil is like, so much cooler! Vergil ftw!" Thats fanboy crap. Helm Breaker, Sephy can block or avoid it without breaking a sweat, and that judgment cut when he dissapears? Sephy can teleport and avoid them all. Sephy can jump alot higher aswell which can play a big role on battle. Not only that but Sephy's sword is disgustingly huge, much bigger than the Yamato, its like 2 Yamatos combined. Iam sorry but Vergil cant win END OF STORY. And if you try to back him up, you know what? Supernova destroys the solar system. You think anybody can survive that? Ummmmmmm no. Thank you.

sorry, don't feel like reading 5 pages

gotta back up my bro, lets do some comparing

Sephy
-Has a big ass sword
-100x faster than everything
-"Supernova"
-"supernova"
-"supernova" (just can't stress that enough)
-he can fly
-he nearly killed everyone without moving a finger
-he can blink his enemys to death
-really cool voice

thats all i can think of, lets see what vergil has...
-a bad ass sword, i guess
-speed
-really nerdy voice
-some cool moves

i guess thats its, and yes, i know more than half of these are just jokes,
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yea vergil is cooler than sephiroth but sephiroth knocks him down clean with his sword..although vergil does have an added reach with his sword so they might be even with that lol but i think vergil is cooler but sephiroth is more powerful

Thanks for backing me up Hero of Wind, these people are crazy to think Vergil has a shot at beating Sephy. I mran more than half of these people never even played the original game for christ sake, they cant compare logically, they keep thrwoing me fanboy shit.

sephiroth is one mean mother. He is hell bent on getting what he wants. There is no way in hell, (get it? haha, hell? virgil? half demon?...nvm) that virgil can beat sephiroth. He can summon a damn comet that blows up jupiter before bashing into his enemies. The only reason cloud and gang survive is because theyve managed to reach a high enough level of the power that can collectively barely compare to sephiroths. And the only reason cloud beats down sephiroth at the end is because hes been severly weakened by 6 different enemies after two different forms and cloud uses his ultimate limit break (which he uses even if u didnt actually get it in the game.)

This message was edited by Legendaryest on Jan 11 2007.

quote Zero and X

Thanks for backing me up Hero of Wind, these people are crazy to think Vergil has a shot at beating Sephy. I mran more than half of these people never even played the original game for christ sake, they cant compare logically, they keep thrwoing me fanboy shit.

i'm here for you bro....

and as i recall, wasn't sephy named number one best boss ever in video game history like seven times?

But in an rpg, not in an action game. Thats a big difference there.

Lot easier to give somone a numerical hp value and other stuff than to make a truly challenging boss battle that requires alot of attention(specially in DMD mode).

Vergil:
Description: Half-demon son of sparda, Dante's twin. Summoned a tower to go to hell itself to gain more power. Was defeated and is now controlled by the king of hell.
-The Yamato
-Beowulf
-Force Edge(if he achieved the power by getting the other amulet, he would be indestructable)
-Devil Trigger
-Judgement Cut
-Rose back from the dead(but is still actaully living)
-can attack faster than the speed of light(which is why you see nothing when he slashes)
-Smart

Sephiroth:
Description: Crazy as hell psycho with a big sword. Wants to kill everything, got killed and now exists as some wierd parasitic memory-thing.
-Long as hell katana
-Powerful
-Supernova
-Flight
-His Momma(cant really think of much going for him right now)
-Never really saw much that porved him to be witty or smart

quote Zero and X

Omg I cant belive, this. How can you guys compare Sephiroth to Vergil if you never saw the movie or played the game? I mean seriously, all you people cant just say "Omg Vergil is like, so much cooler! Vergil ftw!" Thats fanboy crap. Helm Breaker, Sephy can block or avoid it without breaking a sweat, and that judgment cut when he dissapears? Sephy can teleport and avoid them all. Sephy can jump alot higher aswell which can play a big role on battle. Not only that but Sephy's sword is disgustingly huge, much bigger than the Yamato, its like 2 Yamatos combined. Iam sorry but Vergil cant win END OF STORY. And if you try to back him up, you know what? Supernova destroys the solar system. You think anybody can survive that? Ummmmmmm no. Thank you.

how can you say such bs, calling them fanboys and then ranting on about Seph's greatness, ur the fanboy here. Go listen to the chocobo robo song, pretty much describes how ur soundin right now. And I have played and beat the original FF7, and saw the movie, but I still think Vergil can take Seph. u r siding with a guy who worships some dead thing's head.

quote Xeros_the_Slayer

But in an rpg, not in an action game. Thats a big difference there.

Lot easier to give somone a numerical hp value and other stuff than to make a truly challenging boss battle that requires alot of attention(specially in DMD mode).

Vergil:
Description: Half-demon son of sparda, Dante's twin. Summoned a tower to go to hell itself to gain more power. Was defeated and is now controlled by the king of hell.
-The Yamato
-Beowulf
-Force Edge(if he achieved the power by getting the other amulet, he would be indestructable)
-Devil Trigger
-Judgement Cut
-Rose back from the dead(but is still actaully living)
-can attack faster than the speed of light(which is why you see nothing when he slashes)
-Smart

Sephiroth:
Description: Crazy as hell psycho with a big sword. Wants to kill everything, got killed and now exists as some wierd parasitic memory-thing.
-Long as hell katana
-Powerful
-Supernova
-Flight
-His Momma(cant really think of much going for him right now)
-Never really saw much that porved him to be witty or smart

quote Zero and X

Omg I cant belive, this. How can you guys compare Sephiroth to Vergil if you never saw the movie or played the game? I mean seriously, all you people cant just say "Omg Vergil is like, so much cooler! Vergil ftw!" Thats fanboy crap. Helm Breaker, Sephy can block or avoid it without breaking a sweat, and that judgment cut when he dissapears? Sephy can teleport and avoid them all. Sephy can jump alot higher aswell which can play a big role on battle. Not only that but Sephy's sword is disgustingly huge, much bigger than the Yamato, its like 2 Yamatos combined. Iam sorry but Vergil cant win END OF STORY. And if you try to back him up, you know what? Supernova destroys the solar system. You think anybody can survive that? Ummmmmmm no. Thank you.

how can you say such bs, calling them fanboys and then ranting on about Seph's greatness, ur the fanboy here. Go listen to the chocobo robo song, pretty much describes how ur soundin right now. And I have played and beat the original FF7, and saw the movie, but I still think Vergil can take Seph. u r siding with a guy who worships some dead thing's head.

alright, dude, let me explain something here alright

first off, a lot of bad guys in video games come back to life, why should vergil be any different

two, all of vergils attacks are slow compared to sephy

thurdly, he has freakin supernova, how can you beat that?