I am gonna not get the beta yet, because if I starve for months longer then you guys the final meal will be all the more satisfying.

But I would like some information, and your guys experiences. So this thread is for field reports on how well the weapons work, how good the terrain is, and anything else about Halo 3 you want to fill us in on

Some nice war stories would be great too

First lets start a list of all the weapons and vehicles in it (is the gauss hog in?):

MA5C Assault Rifle
Brute Spiker (is its ability to bounce off walls good for anything?)
WAV M6 GGNR Laser
Frag Grenade
Spike Grenade
Plasma Grenade
BR55 Battle Rifle
Carbine
M7 Submachine Gun
AIE 486H Heavy Machine Gun
Missile Pod
Shotgun
Needler
M41 Rocket Launcher
Plasma Pistol
Plasma Rifle?
(Any others?)

Vehicles

Ghost
Warthog
Mongoose
(?)

Equipment

Bubble Shield
Power Drainer
Trip Mine
Grav Lift

Maps

High Ground
Valhalla
Snowbound


And then I'd like a user experience for all weapons and vehicles, like how you liked their performance, and if you like the changes or not, and what changes there are if any.

Then comments on the three maps and their contents, and then random comments on some awesome moments or armour customization/control changes you like

Please help all of us without the Beta with this, even if its a lengthy request!

This message was edited by Justin Time on May 20 2007.

well for weapons:
the spartan laser's charge time is too long, but it is powerful
the shotgun looks really short when u hold it
spike grenade is unpowerfull
power drainer is annoying
assault rifle is awesome, and it sounds cool
sniper is fun
carbine's zoom looks cool
bubble shield is cool
the trip mine's blast radious is big
plasma grenade explosion looks cool

maps

Vanhalla is cool
Highgrounds is fun with a lot of people
The ice map is really fun, by far the best

MA5C Assault Rifle- Not my favorite weapon atm, but useful
Brute Spiker (is its ability to bounce off walls good for anything?)- Extremely useful.
WAV M6 GGNR Laser- Extremely fun, but overpowered
Frag Grenade- Weird grenade time release, but not too bad
Spike Grenade- I found it was really useful in tight corners
Plasma Grenade- Havent used yet
BR55 Battle Rifle- A decent backup weapon
M6? Pistol- Havent used
Carbine?- Extremely good, probably one of the best in the game
Sword?- havent used
M7 Submachine Gun- havent used
AIE 486H Heavy Machine Gun- Annoying, but powerful
Missile Pod- " "
Shotgun- Nerfed
Needler- Bleh
(Any others?)

Vehicles

M808 Scorpion Tank- Missing from BETA
Ghost- Sweet
Wraith- Missing from BETA
Warthog- a tad slower, but alright
Banshee- Missing from Beta
Mongoose- Not as fast as i thought it would be, but the extra passenger is kinda neat.
(?)

Equipment

Power Drainer- Annoying as hell
Trip Mine- Useful as hell
Grav Lift- ""

Shotgun makes me sad now. You have to be really close up to someone to kill them because if you aren't you won't kill someone in 5 shots, and it takes so long to shoot off two shots.

MA5C Assault Rifle: Sounds kinda way different but decent back up weapon
Brute Spiker: very good while duel weilding
WAV M6 GGNR Laser: Wiked powerfull, my favorite new weapon
Frag Grenade: pretty good
Spike Grenade: okay
Plasma Grenade: Never really used
BR55 Battle Rifle: pretty handy as a back up weapon
M6? Pistol: Not in BETA
Carbine?: not too great
Sword?: Not in BETA
M7 Submachine Gun: nice wepon when duel wielded
AIE 486H Heavy Machine Gun: slow movment/turning but powerful
Missile Pod: Great new rocket launcher
Shotgun: Powerfull
Needler: Eh.
(ADDED) rocket launcher: still powerfull
(Any others?)

Vehicles

M808 Scorpion Tank: Not it BETA
Ghost: pretty cool, only in snowbound tho
Wraith: Not in BETA
Warthog: kinda slow, but good
Banshee: Not in BETA
Mongoose: My new favorite vehicle, love the two seet thing.
(?)

Equipment

Power Drainer: anoying, scarse
Trip Mine: Awsome
Grav Lift: pretty cool
Bubble shield: Awsome

quote Justin Time

I am gonna not get the beta yet, because if I starve for months longer then you guys the final meal will be all the more satisfying.

But I would like some information, and your guys experiences.

First lets start a list of all the weapons and vehicles in it (is the gauss hog in?):

MA5C Assault Rifle
Brute Spiker (is its ability to bounce off walls good for anything?)
WAV M6 GGNR Laser
Frag Grenade
Spike Grenade
Plasma Grenade
BR55 Battle Rifle
M6? Pistol
Carbine?
Sword?
M7 Submachine Gun
AIE 486H Heavy Machine Gun
Missile Pod
Shotgun
Needler
(Any others?)

Vehicles

M808 Scorpion Tank
Ghost
Wraith
Warthog
Banshee
Mongoose
(?)

Equipment

Power Drainer
Trip Mine
Grav Lift



And then I'd like a user experience for all weapons and vehicles, like how you liked their performance, and if you like the changes or not, and what changes there are if any.

Then comments on the three maps and their contents, and then random comments on some awesome moments or armour customization/control changes you like

Please help all of us without the Beta with this, even if its a lengthy request!

This message was edited by Justin Time on May 17 2007.

What a thoughtful thread with very thoughtful answers.

Thanks for taking the time you could be using to play the Beta to include us who aren't.

MA5C Assault Rifle - Fun, great starter weapon. It's range isn't too short, and it's useful in any weapon combination.
Brute Spiker - Only good when dual wielding, imo.
WAV M6 GGNR Laser - Very powerful, but the three second charge balances it out. Very fun to use, and heartbreaking when you see the red laser target you.
Frag Grenade - Splash damage needs to be increased.
Spike Grenade - Wicked useful, needs bigger splash damage.
Plasma Grenade - Same as always, but needs bigger splash damage as well.
BR55 Battle Rifle - Same as always, except I think it has a bit more range in the beta then we know it to have in Halo 2.
M6? Pistol - Haven't used it.
Carbine - Way too powerful, needs to be nerfed for the final game.
Sword - Not in the game.
M7 Submachine Gun - Dual wield these and run around the tunnels in snowbound. The short range SMG is ownage.
AIE 486H Heavy Machine Gun - Pretty hawt, to be honest. Detaching this and running around makes it so much cooler, and when you catch somebody coming off a mancannon, it's so funny.
Missile Pod - Pretty fun to use, but damage needs to be increased. It is a MISSILE pod afterall.
Shotgun - Nerfed.
Needler - Pretty powerful, I've racked up quite a few kills with it.


Vehicles

Ghost - Same as always
Warthog - Slower then before, but same as always.
Mongoose - Speedy little bastard, wicked fun jumping cliffs and such. Makes great for going through small passages and splattering people in hiding.


Equipment

Power Drainer - Crazy, roll this into a territory where the enemies are all centered around and follow it with a grenade. Pick off any survivors with AR. It's really a good addition to the game, adds a new sense of strategy. Like if there's a chokepoint on some catwalk(like over the gate in High Grounds), drop the power drainer right in the middle and stand back and wait.
Trip Mine - Haven't used it myself yet, but I've seen it, and it's not too effective. Big, noticeable thing on the ground.
Grav Lift - Fun! Set this up outside the gate in High Grounds and catapault over, jump your mongoose with it, etc. Good stuff.
Bubble Shield - Crazy good. On High Grounds, I opened the gate and dropped the bubble shield right inside the gates. I grabbed the flag and suicide ran towards the bubble shield, obviously didn't make it. My teammate runs out from the bubble, grabs it, and runs back in.

It adds strategy that is key for survival in Halo. =) I love it so much.

what's the missile pod? where to find it?

quote jacobnessj

High Grounds

FUN theres a huge base at the top of a hill and the base has many buildings and a wall w/ a gate a turret

Bubble Shields are awesome for territories. Just place one over the flag and you got safe cover to take the territory.

Shotgun is awesome now. It's like having host advantage in Halo 2, except for everyone. =D

One thing I noticed that's really cool is about the plasma pistol. It slowly drains the power over time if you keep it charged. I'm sure this is because of the 'Noob combo', to stop people running around indefinitely with a charged plasma bolt at the ready.
It also has a GREATLY lowered ability to home in on someone.

High ground is my favourite map so far. Valhalla second. I really like Valhalla, but I'm far better at close to mid range combat, so Higher Ground is more my territory.

Duel Brute Spikers are completely awesome.

quote sa rat

what's the missile pod? where to find it?

The only things I am annoyed with is the territories...I HATE that mode. Otherwise everything *bleep*ing rocks, and for those *bleep*tards saying graphics sucks? I guess you dont know graphics when they kick you in the balls because they look ten times better than Halo2 does so *bleep*, and what the *bleep* is this thing people complaining that it's no longer so easy to get head shots and blow up vehicles? These people are just plain pussies lol they all suck at this game because it takes skill. Get a life people it's the beta and it's already ten times better than Halo2!

Thanks to all of you for taking time to help us with this!

Everything is sounding great, I am glad the shotgun sounds like its lag effect is fixedm though I am hoping that in the final game it has enough range to beat the sword and doesn't look so...sawed off.

Anyways keep'em coming, every post is like opening a christmas present for us without the beta!

MA5C Assault Rifle-Great gun. Put around 10 shots into a guy, then melee to finish the job. Very useful.
Brute Spiker-Great dual wield weapon, sounds vicious, looks vicious with the blade. Never noticed it bounced off of walls.
WAV M6 GGNR Laser-I. Love. This. Gun. Strangely, the more erratic the enemy is moving, the more accurate I am.
Frag Grenade-Similar to Halo2 Frag Grenades. Useful.
Spike Grenade-Weak by itself, but the shrapnel goes all over the place, so it can dish out a fair amount of damage around a large area.
Plasma Grenade-Never really bothered with these things. Spikeys are more abundant, and do a similar job.
BR55 Battle Rifle-Fires faster. Not much of an improvement here. The gun is just awesome still.
Carbine-Improved, sounds awesome, but it's still just a Carbine. Find a Battle Rifle as fast as possible.
M7 Submachine Gun-Never bothered to use this.
AIE 486H Heavy Machine Gun-Too slow movement with this, but what can you expect when you're walking around with a friggin' turret? Once it gets going though, it's awesome.
Missile Pod-Weak as hell against infantry. Has a very good lock on to vehicles and the missles move and fire quickly. But it is not to be used against infantry under any circumstance.
Shotgun-Halved the clip size, but doubled the damage it seems. Very satisfying weapon. Very dangerous weapon.
Needler-Makes the Combat Evolved Needler seem like a piece of junk. Great rate of fire, projectiles move quickly. Fast reloads enable a good amount of double and triple kills.
M19 Rocket Launcher-Not too much time with this. Rockets seem to travel very slow, but the explosion is larger then the Combat Evolved and Halo 2 explosions combined.
Pretty sure that's all of them.

Vehicles

Ghost-Pretty much stayed the same. Only the Snow level has one.
Warthog-Fantastic protection for everyone. Turret tears through people with ease.
Mongoose-No protection whatsoever. If someone opens fire on you, you're practically going to die.


Equipment

Bubble Shield-Good to protect yourself while trying to capture a base or territory, or just to recover shields to prolong killing sprees.
Power Drainer-Best used when you are going to die. Destroys everything in its radius. One drawback is that it depletes your shield when placing it, so only use it if death is all but guaranteed.
Trip Mine-Man, I love these things. Huge area of effect. Also fun to put into the "man-cannons." If you place it right, they can be near impossible to see, causing the person's lifeless body to go careening through the air. If you can throw it into the right spot, it can actually get launched by the cannons. I've killed one teammate by it hitting them, and one by them running one over.
Grav Lift-Useful in making flag grabs more difficult. Place it in front of the flag and watch them miss it. Also makes storming the Highgrounds base easy.

Maps

High Ground-Least favorite map. Small, not much to do. Laser is easy to get to.
Valhalla-Favorite map. Large, Trip Mines at both bases, man-cannons. Only problem is that snipers still have the advantage here.
Snowbound-Nothing really wrong with this map. Fairly small, lots of underground pathways, lots of shield doors.

That help anyone?