Host advantage is huge, I didn't always host, it just never occurred to me to do it, but once I started, I find it difficult to play a match that I'm not hosting. I've lost nearly all my skill when I'm not hosting, because always playing host means you can play like shit and still own everyone, so really, don't host unless you plan to host every match you're ever going to play. btw, turning off extreme gore is for little girls, so what if you get some more blood on your screen, it evens up the host advantage in shotgun battles, but not having the head popping animation? That's just plain ridiculous.

Yeah, the Host gets a significant advantage due to no lag. I almost always do better as host, and it gives me incentive to use that piece of shit Shotgun since it gibbs enemies from further distances and in half of the time as when I'm not host. However, since I like to weapon slide the Boomshot on some maps (Mansion, Gridlock etc.), usually let somebody else host. I still do well Off-host, though.

I still need that damn Boomshot achievement... >_<

I've never once hosted a match. I usually finish top (or 2nd) in kills/points in a match, rarely do I finish any lower. But, whenever I come up against a host, I get *bleep*ing raped. Most of the time they don't even show signs of skill, they just run in and fire the shit out of their gun while I hopelessly try to dodge it. I've been shot from behind cover, behind walls, while out of shotgun range, even when the host isn't even aiming at me. Most of the time I try to do a 1 on 1 with a host I end up technically winning (3 direct shots with a active'd shotgun from 5ft away plus a wack to the head), but I still end up getting raped.

Ahh well, you have to live with these things. I've learnt to try and avoid certain hosts while in games, and only go for the kill if they're unaware of my presence. Though there has been times where I've snuck up behind a host and shot them in the back with a shotgun from litterally touching range, and had them react, roll away and one-hit-down me. Oh well.

me and one of my live friends played a gridlock annex game yesterday that i hosted. we pwned. he got over 50 caps and 50 kills and i got over 125 kills and 25 caps. id say that theres some sort of advantage there.

quote Incidnia

I alllllwwwwwaaaaaayyyyyys weapon slide.

Well i think they could fix the host advantage by giving the host artificial lag (can't come up with another name) you know make every weapon he shoots be .5 of a second late (more or less) i don't know if that could be easy to do in a patch but they could try if they really wanted to beacause host advantage is gay as hell

yea i think you do get host advantage 1 the shots are quicker
especially on shotgun and SNIPER :@:@
the shotgun takes u out quicker i tested it
and they never get lag :@

I noticed two posts that negatively comment on weapon sliding. One even insinuated that weapon sliding meant that the person didn't know how to play.
I don't see what's wrong with it, if you do it, you can do it. If you can't, you learn how. If I remember the MLG rules correctly, there wasn't anything outlawing weapon sliding.

Oh lookie, I found the page with the acutal rules. Here's the part pertaining to the topic.

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General Rules
1. No use of the Invisible Man glitch
2. No use of the Invisible Weapon glitch
3. No use of the Chainsaw Yourself glitch
4. No use of the Infinite Grenade glitch
5. No use of the Floating glitch
6. No walking inside walls
7. No shooting while roadie running
8. No leaving the normal boundaries of a level
9. Breaking any rule will result in a forfeit of the game

quote P P H JayBo 13

i dont like you either, learn to play.

quote Incidnia

Oh I can play very well thanks, I would probably own your noobish ass.

quote Jim Haslett

They'll play hard or they're not going to be here.

OH SHIT SON.

What's with all of the weapon slide haters? I have some advice for you...LEARN TO ADAPT. If you can't shoot down the person by yourself while they're weapon sliding, get a teammate to help you lancer him down.

Like CJagd said, it's not a banned glitch, and most of the pros use it, so the criticisms of the people who use it make you look pretty dumb sometimes. Just wait for the next damn update and they'll remove it.

quote Hammerburst

The Host's weapons aren't stronger. They appear to be because they impact faster and (in the case of the shotgun) more of the shells hit....which is why the shotgun seems to be stronger. There's no possible way they would've programmed something like that, and they couldn't have done it on accident.

You can always just run away and active lancer the host at a distance, and hopefully get the down. These days, not everyone likes to play host.

I have said it before and I'll say it again,

There is no host advantage, merely a non-host disadvantage

I say this because the host plays normal, but the nonhosts have lag to deal with.