Cjagd, you should post your tag, so we can play you on XBL.

You have to admit, the saw is real glitchy at times, some guys will take an active shotgun a close range, and keep coming. there is also the frequent "vacume" effect, when you are out of range, and get pulled into it's radius, which seems to grow with each update.
Why take the double melee away from shotgun only, I think it should be the same for every weapon, except the pistol, cause it's small.

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I think it should be the same for every weapon, except the pistol, cause it's small.

Agreed!

well they hurt the hammer of dawns melee also, that takes 3 htis instead of 2 but i kind of like that you cant double melee with the shotgun

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CJagd, you're telling me you've never been pissed off by being killed with the same weapon by the same game 10 times in a row? What a ----ing load of it.

I can honestly answer "no" to that question. I haven't gotten pissed that I've been killed with the same weapon 10 times in a row in a game. It also seems that no one complains about getting killed by shotguns 10 times in a row, why complain about a chainsaw?

Now, if I had been killed by a chainsaw 10 times in a row, I might actually be pissed. I'd be incredibly pissed that I was cursed with shit-poor reaction times and maybe even a slight mental problem. A chainsaw is a pretty easy weapon to counter; press right trigger when facing them. That's all there is to it.

The shotgun is used much more than the chainsaw. People are killed by shotguns far more times than the chainsaw. Why doesn't anyone complain about the former? It seems to me that the only reason people complain about the chainsaw is that they feel embarrassed. That, and the long animation time and the long, annoying war cry that comes from the attacker.

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I'm someone who gets tired of people bitching myself, but if you don't think the Lancer is over-powered and if you don't think the Boomshot is over-powered then you are seriously ----ed in the head.

I'm ----ed in the head because I think a gun with huge shells that create multiple explosions on impact should at least down somebody and that a fully automatic assault rifle should at least be on par in terms of power with the pistol?

Yeah, that sounds about right. I guess I'm ----ed in the head.

The Boomshot is a bazooka, or close enough to it. It's a staple of shooter games for there to be a BFG that turns the tide of battle and everybody scrambles for. Gears of War is no exception. It's a power weapon, it is supposed to be fought over. Notice how it's in the middle of the map? It's supposed to be deadly, get over it.

A pistol does more damage than a fully automatic assault rifle.

Read the sentence above a couple of times, and tell me if that makes any sense. It doesn't, but before the update, that was the truth for Gears. The Lancer is finally at the level that it was meant to be at. It's completely fine. Don't like how strong it is? Move out of the way.

Don't roll around outside of cover.
Don't stand there exposed.
Don't roadie run straight towards someone who's shooting at you.

Pretty simple.

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Gears was so much better before everything was long-distance bullshit, and all the short range was Chainsaw battles.

There's an old adage I learned, adapt to survive. The game changes, change with it; or go play something else if you don't like it. Gears is now primarily long-range battles, get used to it. All the bitching in the world won't change that.

As for the chainsaw battles, I haven't seen that happen. Most people I play with still use the shotgun for close quarters encounters. I might be wrong, and everyone is suddenly shunning their close quarters only weapon in favor for a weapon that'll get you killed faster in the open than playing in traffic. My 360 got the red ring of death, and I haven't played in a week, so I don't know, but I doubt it's like what I typed.

As for teabagging, it's another shooter staple. Do I think it's cool and do it every chance I get? No, I hate teabagging, but it isn't going away any time soon. It would seem that a large slice of the people that play Gears are both either near or complete necrophiles and homosexual, seeing as both teams are males. That's their way of life, and I'm not doing anything to deter them from it.

Melee, for the pistol and grenades, used to be complete and utter horseshit. The range was insane and you could do it twice with no hope of recovery for the pistol; unless you were host, and the grenade tag should be obvious. You could melee someone who had their chainsaw revved up. They have toned down the range of both melees in recent updates. It's fine now.

I think the double melee is fine, all the weapons that have the double melee suck completely in close quarters combat. I guess Epic wanted to give those who get snuck up on a chance of fighting back; unless a chainsaw is used.



JayBo, it's Jagdedged. I don't have an Xbox at the moment, it's getting repaired/replaced.

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Well, for one, people do it because cliffy wanted a boomshot, active, torque, blindfire, or a chainsaw in the game. That's what partially made it unique. If someone chainsaws, personally it's their problem, either way, their going to get chainsawed, or they're going to get headshot..the fuss is never going to end. Shit, glitching and teabagging is another issue though..

A dead body is sucking my balls LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. I MUST BE COOL!!

Seriously, i thought necrophilea was frowned upon not worshipped. Sure, you killed the person but instead of crouching on their face, you can go out and find some ammo or another person to fight.

Honestly, why do people teabag?

Sounds like someone's had their mouth full of balls one too many times.

Actually no, i never have.
If you waste time doing it in COD, your gunna get killed.
Your character almost always turns into meat chunks on UT so cant do it there.
And i dont have live, my friends dont do it so it cant have happened on halo.

Nope, never happened to me.


Edit: Now that i think about it, they're saying that i'm not pretty enough to be orally raped. I.... I dont know how to feel... I... I need time to myself to think.

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TBH, that's why I usually NOW stay away from multiplayer games, since some people prefer to be assholes and penetrate me in some way...but hey, that's where bad rep comes in right?

I'm not wasting my time humping people, because if they do it, then it really makes me no better than them.

I hate when you smack someone and they dont get stunned and end up killing you or smacking and stunning you

I hate when you shoot someone and they doun't get stunned and chainsaw you.

I hate when McBain shouts at the end of all the macthes he wins and loses - He also rapes... & Chainsaws

because there is no skill in the use of holding the b button down to chainsaw and the lancer is now to overpowered
i suppose the boomshot isnt that bad aslong as the teams are even because its so easy to kill them when it is uneven

they should put the lancer how it was originally it is to powerful now

As I read this thread from the begining, reading the posts of people saying the chainsaw takes no skill, the sniper is cheap, etc. etc. I though: " I will post something telling these guys the truth, why they are all wrong, but then I came across this gorgeous post by a guest, and I thought, damn, that kid is my friggin brother. So instead of posting the same thing, I will just quote him, since he says, nearly word for word, what I was going to say.

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Look, if the other player gets close enough with a revved chainsaw, he gets the kill. He earned it. I keep reading complaints about when a "noob" runs up behind you and chainsaws you. If he's behind you, who's *bleep*ing fault is that?

The idea behind Gears of War was a tactical, but fast paced shooter. Flanking is the oldest tactic in the book, other than overwhelming force. Besides, if he was behind you with a chainsaw, and you didn't notice, I don't think it'd be much harder for him to get out a shotgun and shoot you point blank. Similarly, how did he get behind you with no skill? He may have just run forward, that doesn't take anyskill, but it takes less skill to see him coming. There are four of you (usually), act like it and don't all face the same direction.

Also, there are numerous posts with something along the lines of, "it takes no skill whatever to hide and run around with a chainsaw," or something like that. Why are people crucifying players who combine cover with a one-hit kill, close quarters weapon? Maybe you shouldn't just blindly run around corners in enemy territory.

BUT SOMETYMES THERES CHANSAW N00BS NEER MY SPAWN.

Who's fault do you think it is that they're back there? You didn't watch what was going on, you pay the price.

Personally, I love the chainsaw. It's an awesome weapon, a reward for getting up-close and personal with your enemy. And the bloody camera makes it all the better.


The Lancer is pretty much the staple of Gears. Why the Hell wouldn't you use it? It's a medium to long range weapon. It lays down suppressive fire the best out of all the weapons.

Does anyone know what suppressive fire means?

Fire that's aimed at or in the direction of enemy forces with the goal to reduce the ability to defend themselves or return fire, by forcing the enemy to remain under cover.

Well, it doesn't exactly force you to remain under cover, but it's a damned good idea. If you get caught out in the open with no cover around, as stated before, who's *bleep*ing fault is that? The Lancer was underpowered before the update, it's finally at the level I wanted it to be originally.

Addressing the Boomshot complaints, it's the bazooka of Gears. Every FPS has a giant gun capable of dealing massive area damage. The Boomshot is Gears' version of the BFG. Leave it alone, it's fine as it is. It's not cheap or n00bish in anyway. It's a weapon that's supposed to turn the tide of battle, you're supposed to protect it. It's a power weapon; deal with it.

Now onto the Longshot; it's another power weapon. On certain maps, there are two of them, one one both sides of a symmetrical map. This is to create balance, both sides get a sniper. Both sides have access to the "cheapness" of the active reload. On other maps, it's like the Boomshot, something you're supposed to guard or fight over. The only map that I can think of that's an exception is Escalation. The two snipers were a way of giving the team that starts at the bottom of the hill a little help in taking the high ground.

There's actually nothing cheap about the weapon. If you're complaining about getting downed by actives every time, here's an idea, don't get shot. Treat it like a Torque Bow or Boomshot, one hit equals death. Stay out of the way, it's actually really simple.

Shit talking is annoying though.

It's probably because people think that if you use the chainsaw you suck with all other weapons. Not true. Fair enough spining around corners and getting easy kills every game when you DONT need the achievment is nooby and annoying, but the art of rolling, running and sneaking up on your opponent is difficult. Active reloads in the sniper is just skill.
A funny related story is my friend, who is very good, who hosted a game the other day. All 4 of the other team members were complaining about "host lancer". So he started using shotty,(no active) and when he started owning them with that, they complained, so he switch to pistol, and once again, he pwned, they moaned. But when we asked them which weapons weren't nooby, they didn't have an answer. Was very funny, because they were all stubborn to quit, and I got 20+ kills, he got somewhere around 50.

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They have toned down the range of both melees in recent updates. It's fine now.

not really, the range is still increadible with the pistol and grenades. alot of the time, you can clearly see them swing and miss, but you still get hit, or hear that little "tink" noise of a grenade.