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Jul 23, 07 at 6:05am
End of Act 3

I know there's probably already been a thread on this, and if someone can link me to a strategy that actually works I'll gladly call for this thread to be closed.

I've played roughly five hours this weekend and made no progress on Tip of the Iceberg at the end of Act 3. I had no problem getting rid of the Corpser, but I can't for the life of me secure the station. I'm on Hardcore difficulty, I can't imagine doing this shit on Insane. Anyway, I've actually made it up onto the platform and killed all of the Theron Guard (though that took me many, many tries-I've had too many torque arrows to the fact to count) and I realize all that's left are the shotgun guys. Ever time I get close and spawn them, they lay waste to my team and I'm alone up there. One of them flank me from behind while the other rushes me, I can't do anything about it. I've tried everything, blind firing the shotgun to kill them, but nothing works. I'm not going back down to Casual just to beat this chapter, that's lame. Can anyone give me a way to beat this that actually works? I'm about ready to beat my Xbox repeatedly with a hammer, I've seen the red screen of death way too many times over the past two days.


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Jul 23, 07 at 6:08am
re: End of Act 3

Try to kill them from a distance so they can't use their shotguns on you. Using a shotgun yourself is almost useless in single player, use a lancer or hammerburst. There's also torque bow off to the right before you go over that hill, you can use that and get more ammo from the Theron Guards, or try to acquire a sniper sometime earlier in the game before you get to this part.
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Jul 23, 07 at 6:15am
re: End of Act 3

I'm going into it carrying my assault rifle and torque bow, I'm shit with the torque bow so I switched to the shotgun. I can see how you say it would be useless, though. I'm going to try spawning the shotgun guys and luring them off the platform tomorrow, I'm too annoyed to play it again tonight. The only bad part is you have to play THE ENTIRE FIREFIGHT OVER AGAIN, which makes it difficulty, for sure, but also very, very annoying. If there was a checkpoint right after Dom asks what that noise was and you got a shot of the Theron guard, I would be a lot happier. I have to approach the damn station and hear Marcus' orders everytime, which adds to the frustration.


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Jul 23, 07 at 6:29am
re: End of Act 3

I always chainsaw the Theron Guards, it's the easiest way to kill them, at least that's how it worked for me.

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Jul 23, 07 at 6:33am
re: End of Act 3

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I always chainsaw the Theron Guards, it's the easiest way to kill them, at least that's how it worked for me.
You can't get close to them on hardcore or insane because they'll chainsaw/melee you. If you have, you got damn lucky.

Just use the torque bow and lancer/hammerburst to clear as many as you can while staying outside of the pumping station. Once you see that you've eliminated a good bit, go ahead and advance. Stay behind cover whenever possible and watch your back at all times.


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Jul 23, 07 at 6:49am
re: End of Act 3

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I always chainsaw the Theron Guards, it's the easiest way to kill them, at least that's how it worked for me.
You can't get close to them on hardcore or insane because they'll chainsaw/melee you. If you have, you got damn lucky.

Just use the torque bow and lancer/hammerburst to clear as many as you can while staying outside of the pumping station. Once you see that you've eliminated a good bit, go ahead and advance. Stay behind cover whenever possible and watch your back at all times.



Well, I mixed it up some. A lot of the times though, the Theron Guards will rush you or get up close, then charge the Torque bow, sometimes firing a dud. I use that chance to chainsaw them. All other times I'll either snipe them or torque them. It was only in Casual that I was able to use the longshot all the way through to the end from when you first find it. In hardcore and insane I'd run out of ammo fairly quickly and I would have to switch to another weapon, which was either the lancer or hammerburst. I didn't use the Torque so much either because you can only get more ammo by killing the Theron Guards, and finding the torque after they drop it isn't an easy thing when you're being shot at.
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Jul 23, 07 at 7:14am
re: End of Act 3

On Casual and Hardcore i ran up to the top of the hill where your team originally splits up and sniped all the locust with my longshot.
On Insane however, I let Dom distract them while I sniped 'em with a torque shot.

I do agree that this was easily the hardest part of the game and that, quite frankly, RAAM was noob compared to this.


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Jul 23, 07 at 8:09am
re: End of Act 3

I've gone on record saying that the Pumping Station on Insane is the most difficult section of the game. Hands down. Thats not saying a whole lot since the area can be conquered eventually w/o too much frustration (most of the time), but this is definitely the part that had me annoyed the most on my first run or two through the game.

The station is a lot harder to overtake with no co-op buddy to play with, but as others have said, just try to use your torque bow from a distance. I suggest running all the way up the path to the giant box in the upper-left corner. Hide behind it and the Locust should start running down the ramp trying to find you. Just wait for them to get close enough and take them out with shottie and/or torque.

Not sure about hardcore, but I know that the Guard's aim on Insane with the torque is pretty spot on, which means you need to be careful and stay behind cover. Just be patient and try not to rush your actions. Oh, and definitely dont run up the ramps by yourself, and with the shottie guys, just try to lancer them from a distance, preferably behind cover.


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Jul 23, 07 at 9:20am
re: End of Act 3

When baird explains the theron guards entrance, onto the left path with Dom, there should be a flat cover space right onto the left of the station, and just remain there. Arrows will have a hard time ti hit you because of the many obstacles within.

Kill at least the 5 Guards ahead before Advancing, if Baird/Cole are Down, wait a bit and Torque another two before rushing in. If you have the Longshot already, it will be a bit easier. I dont recommend the Burst or Shotgun for this part. Theron Guards are ridiculously dangerons close range.
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Jul 23, 07 at 2:15pm
re: End of Act 3

Thanks for all your help guys. I'm going to play later on today and I'll let you know how it went.



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Jul 23, 07 at 3:56pm
re: End of Act 3

Get a friend o help you out. Wait until you have to do it on INSANE



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Jul 23, 07 at 4:59pm
re: End of Act 3

Its still pretty damn hard on insane, even with a co-op buddy. My mate never learned not to stick your head out when the Theron Guards have a light playing about the end of their gun...

ONe of my most memorable moments in recent times happened at the Pumping station. Two Theron Guards were coming down the ramp straight ahead of me, and I had no cover. I threw my back to the big cylindrical structure for all the good it did, and two torque bow arrows went zipping past the place I just occupied. The contrails they left in the air made it look like a Matrix movie


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Jul 23, 07 at 5:38pm
re: End of Act 3

I went through the campaign on Hardcore just recently because I was bored and my Live was down. This part certainly does stand out I find as a tough battle.


On Hardcore and Insane this is made very difficult by the fact they are amazing shots with the Torque Bow. Getting close is the last thing you want to do for the first wave. I stayed back at about the point where Dom says "You hear that?". Then I got a bit close and took them out with my hammerburst. Picked up some torque bow ammo and went round to the back of the station to take out some more of them.


On the fourth try I usually get it.
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Jul 23, 07 at 7:34pm
re: End of Act 3

I found the pumping station to be fairly simple, even on insane. Get the tourque and the lancer. When you see the first theron duck for cover. There are two therons with tourques that will fire at you. Wait for them to fire thier arrows. Then pop a tourque in one of em. Repeat. Then, run to the entrance. Eventually, the remaining therons will either take cover in front of you and try to tourque you, or they will rush you. If they try to tourque you, wait for thier arrow to fire into your cover and then pop an arrow in them. If they rush you, rev the chainsaw and nail em as soon as they turn the corner. Now, you just have to worry about the guys at the front of the base. As soon as you hear them laugh, take cover. Be patient here. This is the easiest place to screw up at. Keep a distance between you and them and have your tourque out. As soon as you see one in the open, quickly pop an arrow in him. Repeat for the other 3/4 enemies in the area.

There. All done. It may take a few tries at first, but once you get the pattern down, you will rarely ever die in this area. The places I hate most are the beggining of Act 4 on insane and the top of the car in Act 5 on insane. There is a simple enough theory for taking both those places, but they both have luck factors in them.


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Jul 23, 07 at 8:48pm
re: End of Act 3

use co-op

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