I make no apologies to anyone concearning this game. The publisher, creater, and programmer (s) have ran out of excuses with everyone else so that's why I can't get so much as ONE word from them.

I've got just about everything figured out concerning Senora and can't go any farther. Westka did publish 10 different forest layouts, so I'm wondering how come they have no clues or strategies (walks/faqs) when they can show the game character being led through the forest by a guide. And there are screen shots that I've never seen.

Is anyone, besides myself and a couple of others on an Arcatera discussion board, willing to approach Westka and urge them to fix the game or atleast release a guide/strategies so some gamers can attempt to get through the game despite the reluctance of the creaters to straighten out the programming?

Sure, the game IS buggy but it's actually possible to complete it!!! After talking to Uthor and he says "I think we've talked enough now", leave it at that. If you keep pestoring him, he will never join you.

Barbarians will be your friend for 100 gold, just don't press your luck. Another day, offer Uthor gold, without talking, and he'll tell you to "Put that away!" Do this once each day, for a couple of days, and he eventually agrees to guide you. Tell him you'll give part payment and the rest afterwards. If you give him the entire amount, he's liable to take right off and you never see him again.

NEVER, ever have four team members and hire Uthor too. You can move around for awhile but once you pay off Uthor, you end up with 3 team members, even though there's 4 members on screen. The person that was in the fourth slot gets booted out and you can't leave the present screen!

The library doors are only open on certain days. If the 2 levers, on the left of the screen, aren't both up, the doors will not be open!

So many things don't seem to happen, but they DO! The game has a very powerful AI, due to certain things happening on certain days. There's not much you can do from 31 Gargaryn to 4 Haas except collect and sell wealth for gold. You'll need a tremendous amount to make sure you'll outbid everyone on the donation board at the Temple. This is to ensure you'll be able to convince Priest to alter the "Wheel of Fortune" so that the Big Bad Prisoner in question will die. Just keep watch on the board, right up to the time of the "Holy Festival" and don't tell anyone of your plan, other than the Priest.

So you see, even the designer Huss Weska and others, go more than they bargained for. Sure they cancelled the Dream Cast version of the game but they are a very small company with limited sources. hint hint hint!

When you finish the game, most of the time the Priest fails in his attempt to fix the Wheel of Fortune and it lands on violet, granting a stay of execution. Then Rog Gwenuar is rescued and joins up with the mercenaries. Consequently, Senora is decimated. Some claim that this is a bug. I'm not absolutely sure. I think it's due to not having high enough percentage points for the Elimination of Black Sun category in the notebook.

You said it, man. I recently got through to the finale, with 55% evidence on Elimination of Black Sun, and it happened like you said. Dang, and double dang.

Well, I'll just start over and try for more percentage. If it still doesn't work, THEN I will have to assume that it's a bug after all.

I've played through to the execution day (day 1 of Holy Festival) and the Prince never has the Scepter, no matter when or how I get it back to him. SOMETHING IS ROTTEN IN SENORA!!!

played to execution day, 17 hass, while previously exposing Hahl Ganon. If returned scepter, Jeseiar was executed and everyone else set free, even though the prince didn't have the scepter even though I previously gave it to him.

If I did not return the scepter, everyone was set free or detained for a future decision.

I went to the Eternally Tranquil Place, in the forest, on the 17th of Hass, and Hahl Ganon was hiding there but I couldn't attack because he just ran away again.

Has anyone gone past 17 Hass? Is there any gameplay after the Holy Festival Week?

I'm playing Arcatera since February and I do feel something is wrong. I do think that the Developper should provide some hints. I feel it's unacceptable that we paid such amount of money for a game that doesn't lead us anywhere.

May be we can share some hints ? What is there to do in Zon Lathon's House ? is Franco De Hull involved in the black sun ?

I gave back the scepter to the prince but at the trial of Rog, he doesn't have it. I also kill Hahl Ganon at the Tranquil place, as well as zadax, liza and Fuerget but nothing happened, I got the same ending. I found the dark place, killed the dragon and got the treasure, but is there other treasure to be found in the Kandt Forest. I discovered 5 sites: orc village, barbarian village, robber's camp, tranquil place and dark place. I went to the library a few times but didn't find anything.

Is there anyone who succesfully finished the game ?

Check out my walkthrough at www.dlh.net

It's not likely the game will ever end the way you would expect. I played all the way through 3 times and several portions during the game. It took me off and on for about 9 months and I just got tired.

Sascha Hussock, the main programmer, said due to time constrants and deadlines, further support (patches and so forth) was not likely. The Dreamcast release was even cancelled. Westka is currently working on something else, but Sascha wouldn't say what.

I do know that when you first talk to the woman from the thieves guild, she says not to mention the scepter to anyone else, and the prince says to be discrete about returning it, once you've found it.

good gaming and let me know if you ever get the game to turn out right and what you did to make it so.

George K. Ison:cool:

I checked Garr's walkthrough and I got more of less the same results and discoveries with some minor differences.
In the latest game I did, a man appeared also in my room in Westham and told me He saw some mercenaries bringing the scepter in the Kandt Forest. I therefore went to see the mercenaries, gave them 25 gold coins and they told me the barbarian Roun has the scepter. They gave me a map written on a piece of leather that indicates the way to the barbarian's village. I showed it to Uthor, so he could bring me there. So now, I'm after Roun (the one that is wearing a black coat, with black hear and beard).

There must me something else to this game. They're constantly talking about Rog's Treasure and the robber gang's treasure.

In Zon Lathon's house, is there anyone who managed to go in where there is a trap floor close to his laboratory ?

Also, in the abandonned house in Eastham - the one with the living dead in the basement - in the hallway leading to the basement, there are two doors, one on each side of the hallway... did anyone managed to open those doors ?

I'll keep in touch...

The trapdoor at Zon's is just there for looks.

I too ran into the multiple Roun characters, even after finding the scepter as early as the first day.

The Basilisk den is the only treasure I ever found.

Remember the shabby dressed woman thief you can talk to on the first day? She says not to mention the scepter to anyone and what you learned from her. The Prince, after you get him to admit the scepter is missing, says to be discreet in returning it to him. Could these 2 instances have a bearing on whether or not the Prince has it at beginning of holy festival?

According to Sascha Hussock, game designer, if you return the scepter on reception day, he should have it at execution. So, I still think SOMETHING IS ROTTEN IN SENORA!

Just an afterthought, but I wonder what difference it would make if the 1.2 patch was applied by first copying it to the game directory?

About copying the patch in the directory, I don't know. I'm not so good technically.

I think that discorering the scepter in the abandonned house at the beginning of the game, might be too early in the game. The computer don't really acknowledge it (?). If we follow Roun's file to get the scepter, who knows where it can lead us...

Something new happened last night in my game. I gave back the dead body of Elvira to Tongarve (thanks to your hint of the sac ...) and they both told me everything that happens about the blackmail of Aklan, Tongarve stealing the scepter, the ride in the forest of the 2 women accompanied by 2 men, etc. Later, Lizza came to the monk (she is friend of the monk since the beginning of the game) and offer to unite their force together (to do what, I didn't understand exactly). So now my monk is with Lizza. But it seems that when my monk is with the magician Josien, Lizza disappear... I have 60 % in the record for the quest of the scepter. So may be, Lizza is an opportunistic person: she feels that the black sun is loosing the game and she wants to be in the right side ???

After six months of this game, I still have some hopes... most of the time ! will see...

You're talking of the shabby woman of the thief guild. Who are you talking about. Is it Ofra India?

OK, Ofra it is, just couldn't think of the proper name.

In spying on the black sun meeting in the basement of the warehouse, remember that zadax and lizsa are 2 key associates of the black sun. Actually, I thought all she was for was the rather compromising aspects of a relationship, if you catch my drift.

One time I too returned Elvira's body, then suddenly she was alive!

As for bugs, the only really big thing I've noticed is when there's a lot of action on the screen during a fignt, the adventurer walks up over top of everyone for just a couple of seconds. And in the abandoned house by the Al Duma Magna, whoever goes in after the scepter suddenly becomes small till the first enemy is killed!

You could be right in that the game gets out of sinc if certain things are done too early. Some day we may know for sure. AND, darnit, I reinstalled the game and will be taking a few stabs at it while still playing Max Payne.

Well, it seems that you still didn't completely give up on Arcatera, since you're still reading this forum.

I too. Sometimes I'm tired of this game, but I just can't let go. I have to find out !

See you...

I redid part of the game, right after I gave back Elvira to his father, before Lizza joined the monk because the magician Josien had been stolen half her inventory and I didn't like it. Fortunately I had a saved game.

So this time, Lizza came to the fighter and asked him to unite forces and disappeared right after... A day after, she joined the group back again. So it seems that she doesn't mind who's in the group. The problem is that I don't know what to do with her. She said she can be helpful to the group since she knows her way around in Senora and she knows a lot of people.

Elvira talked about a friend, Alinda, who's being held captive in Zadax hide out. Do you know about that ?