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Oct 21, 05 at 12:37pm
2 Dagger or Katar Assassin

I'm trying to figure out which kind to make.

I kind of want 2 daggers, but I heard Katars are just as fast and are much stronger.

Can anyone enlighten me about which one does what?
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Oct 21, 05 at 1:11pm
re: 2 Dagger or Katar Assassin

First off, Dagger sins are much stronger then Katars. Katars are faster but weaker. Dagger sins are also wickedly expesnive, so if you can afford them then go for it.



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Oct 23, 05 at 10:38am
re: 2 Dagger or Katar Assassin

I hate dagger Sins, even though I use them myself for fun. at 99 agi u still hit only so slow while Katars will deal fast attacks and also High Attacks. Plus what Weapon didn't mention is Dagger sins will miss alot due to the fact they weill have some dex but maybe not enought, where a Critical hit will never miss it's target. So I think Crits>Daggers.


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Oct 23, 05 at 11:33am
re: 2 Dagger or Katar Assassin

Actually, it all depends on what type of build you have. A friend of mine, who has a dagger sin has a very good build, and has a great hit rate. Granted you still won't be hitting like crits do but you'll still be stronger then a crit sin.


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Oct 24, 05 at 12:32pm
re: 2 Dagger or Katar Assassin

I have to disagree with that too, even if my build is not completely dagger. I find that crits kill much faster than daggers.

depending on the cards use, i can say a crit kills faster than a dagger. Daggers can do a substancial amount of damage, but it hits so slow that it would not compare to how fast my crits would be hittin, and the damage it would do if we had the same cards and everything. The crit would actually kill the monster faster.


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Oct 30, 05 at 9:47pm
re: 2 Dagger or Katar Assassin

I actually think Katar Sins are more expensive to invest for...

I mean if you're going for Critical Sin, yes it will friggin' expensive.

One of the things you'll worry about being a Dagger Sin are the Type of Daggers you need to use for specific Monsters you're Hunting.

And yes, Dagger Sins are much stronger than Katar Sins, but it feels good when people compliments you how much Criticals you can do with a Katar. Or, if you want you really don't need to be a Crit Sin, you could beef up your Str so you have stronger Sonic Blow and kickass Grimtooth! XD

But in the end, it's still your choice which one you want to go for.





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Oct 31, 05 at 10:05am
re: 2 Dagger or Katar Assassin

God Dagger sins suck, why can't anyone see. And no im not a Noob, I've been playing for a year now. The added Damage of a Dagger Sin is Nice. But considering they have 6 Andre cards (2 tripple Hurricane Damascus)of course they will do a nicer damage, but If a Katar can have 6 andre cards also, plus u can Crit, Daggers will never compare.

Since Katars can't I still kill faster with a Katar than a Dagger, and im Hybrid. XP


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Nov 10, 05 at 7:02am
re: 2 Dagger or Katar Assassin

DarkRue, which dagger sin uses andre cards for daggers? oO Let me clear up some things here, dagger sins ARE stronger than crit types in PvM ONLY, crits can beat the crap out of of dagger sins in PvP and WoE. In other words, you'd best become a dagger sin until you reach 99, then rebirth and become a crit sin x. Dagger sins level up waay faster than crit types. I have a crit sin x myself.With advanced katar mastery, you can easily do 500++ dmg to monsters with a normal +9 tri crit jur. In pvp, with an infiltrator you normally crit 3k+ to people without thara with edp and 2.5k+ to people with thara. It's entirely up to you. As a sin it's ok to become either dual dagger or critical. But as a sin x, the worst choice you can make is becoming a dual dagger sin x. Soul Breaker or Critical is a much better choice for an assassin cross.


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Nov 15, 05 at 9:57am
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DarkRue, which dagger sin uses andre cards for daggers?
Do you even know what you are talking about, or are u on a private server with all High Lvs. because almost every DD sin I know uses and or has a +7-8 Tripple Hurricane Damascus. Get it right if your going to prove to me that you know anything about sins at all.

And the sheer fact that DD sins can't kill as fast as crit sins. for example at Niff and or other places with High def monsters, DD sins fail to come close to the damage and speed a crit sin can do.

Anyways example just to clear it up, a Sin using 2 normal Damascus and a Sin using a Jamadhar to kill a Bloody. Both sins start attacking at same time, one is crit the other is dagger. U know who will kill the bloody murderer first, sure as hell not the DD sin.


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Nov 15, 05 at 1:55pm
re: 2 Dagger or Katar Assassin

Which leads me to ask if you know what your talking about. Dagger sins should be using Triple Andre Gladius's instead of Damascus's. Also, ever think about 2 +8-10 Quad Bloody Main Gauches? Those are fairly deadly. Really, get Jake in here and he will explain .

Granted Crit Sins have a basic chance of always hitting with crits, and they have high ASPD, but at least see it our way.

Dagger sins are better for PVM but use the Main Gauches I said above and you have a pretty sweet Dagger sin in PVP .


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Nov 15, 05 at 10:32pm
re: 2 Dagger or Katar Assassin

Did I say Damascus XD silly me.

I will just leave it here because i don't like to argue, im just not a fan of DD sins because i feel like they are so full of themselves when.



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Nov 16, 05 at 12:13pm
re: 2 Dagger or Katar Assassin

I agree, let's leave it at that.



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Jan 11, 06 at 1:59pm
re: 2 Dagger or Katar Assassin

I dont think that DDSins need so much expensive build IF you have a decent build.

Like...Wind Damascus/Quad Saharic Knife




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Apr 19, 06 at 1:22pm
re: 2 Dagger or Katar Assassin

If I'm plannin on makin a 2 dagger sin, should I ignore the katar masterys... and if I want to be a katar sin, should I ignore right-hand mastery? And is sonic blow needed for daggers... or does it only work with katars?


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Apr 19, 06 at 1:46pm
re: 2 Dagger or Katar Assassin

Sonic blow is only used with katars. If your are going dual dagger then ignore katar mastery. If you are going katar, ignore the left land and right hand masteries.



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