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DXD Still Tacular Seeketh Maximus total posts: 5900 since: Aug 2008	Apr 10, 09 at 5:15am re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	I find that online play carries the risk of simply becoming yet another cyber bullying outlet, thus I try to stay away from situations like these as much as possible unless I am playing with someone I know publicly. ------------------- [ Sign? ] \| -- [ 100 ] \| [ 1000 ] \| [ 10000 ] -- \| [ Rate? ] \| --[Games]--[T.V.]-[(TLT)]-[Movies]--[Music]-- \|
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ShadowGuard To Err is human; to forgive, infrequent Still Seekin' total posts: 3937 since: Apr 2006	Apr 10, 09 at 5:57am re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	quote Fatal Error Yeah, still waiting to hear your reasoning for that one. I'm pretty sure there's nothing "spoiled" about the reasons I've listed. I have, maybe you should read the posts, I am still waiting for a "valid" reason why old skool gamers cant get off their high-horse and realize times have changed, games have become better, and the old skool population is the minority in the gaming world. Old skool gamers who cannot like the new generation of games are just too stubborn. that is what I see from you Fatal Error. I am waiting for a legit reason for why this generation sucks quote iLLmatic Now, Valkyria Chronicles did not come close to breaking any sales records, and it was all but forgotten in the holiday mix, but ask anyone who played the game if they will reminisce over it's gameplay 10 years from now, and they will likely all give you an astounding yes. I liked this statement, however, I have played Valkyria Chronicles and loved it. I truly want to say it is on par with any RPG on a current gen console. SO4 and VC are the best in my opinion. VC is probably the most underestimated game on the market right now. I cannot describe to you in words how much I loved VC and everything about it. But to be honest, I do not see people saying that in the future, I probably will not even say that in the future, because there will 10 years of new and interesting stuff that I and everyone else will probably forget about VC. -------------------
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iLLmatic -Messatsu- Hooked on Neo total posts: 4114 since: Oct 2004	Apr 10, 09 at 6:42pm re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	quote ShadowGuard I cannot describe to you in words how much I loved VC and everything about it. But to be honest, I do not see people saying that in the future, I probably will not even say that in the future, because there will 10 years of new and interesting stuff that I and everyone else will probably forget about VC. I guess that's where our disagreement stems from then. Let me explain it like this. I'm sure you've read your share of people on the net complaining about the lack of backward compatibility in their PS3s, right? Now, I have a BC PS3, but I've played a grand total of 1 PS2 game in the total time I've owned my PS3. However, I have played several PS1 games, and it is very disappointing to see the anemic PS Classics section in the US PSN Store. As I said before, games are memorable for me, because I enjoyed the time I had with them, with or without competition to compare them to. The Guardian Legend on NES is probably the first RPG I ever played, and I still go and play it sometimes on my laptop when I'm out. You can make the argument that nostalgia or whatever specific reasons are why I still like the game, but it won't change the fact that I still enjoy the game. This message was edited by iLLmatic on Apr 10 2009. -------------------
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DXD Still Tacular Seeketh Maximus total posts: 5900 since: Aug 2008	Apr 10, 09 at 6:49pm re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	quote iLLmatic As I said before, games are memorable for me, because I enjoyed the time I had with them, with or without competition to compare them to. The Guardian Legend on NES is probably the first RPG I ever played, and I still go and play it sometimes on my laptop when I'm out. You can make the argument that nostalgia or whatever specific reasons are why I still like the game, but it won't change the fact that I still enjoy the game. A very good point since this could apply to my video gaming habits as well. Public competition is fun and all, but I find that it really all boils down to whether you're truly having fun or not with said title. For me, this could be the Street Fighter/Marvel vs. Capcom series that I just couldn't get enough of back in the day and still play on a regular basis. Going back to the old, simpler times through the performance of my PSone is a reason why I never got around to purchasing a PS3 in the first place. ------------------- [ Sign? ] \| -- [ 100 ] \| [ 1000 ] \| [ 10000 ] -- \| [ Rate? ] \| --[Games]--[T.V.]-[(TLT)]-[Movies]--[Music]-- \|
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mega laser sword guy James 4:12 just getting started! total posts: 107 since: Sep 2006	Apr 10, 09 at 9:24pm re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	quote DXD I find that online play carries the risk of simply becoming yet another cyber bullying outlet, thus I try to stay away from situations like these as much as possible unless I am playing with someone I know publicly. Yeah I know. People take it too seriously. It's a sport now. I'm an artist so that's how I see it. Co op can be fun. I'm much more interested in enjoying the experience and observing atmospheres. Bioshock is a great example of what I prefer. To each his own.
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Dark Dom fatalframeIV Neo: Essential total posts: 11904 since: May 2004	Apr 10, 09 at 9:46pm re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	Honestly, I agree with what you're saying, original poster. Take a look at the PSX. Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, the FF games, and the rest made the console shine brilliantly. Then came the PS2, not so many good FF games, Gran Turismo was decent, Spyro and Crash Bandicoot transformed into a pile of steaming shit. Then came Ratchet & Clank, and Jak & Daxter. BRILLIANT Platforming games, truly memorable. GTA3, GTAVC, and GTASA were incredible gaming worlds, people still play them today. PS2 introduced DVD gaming which was revolutionary. Now what? This generation is just lacking anything memorable. Sure MGS4 was ok, short and made up of enough cutscenes to make your eyes bleed, but still a good experience. No Gran Turismo yet. LBP wasn't half-bad, and now Jak 4 has been announced for PS2 and PSP, which made a lot of us wtf. GTAIV was a huge disappointment for most people, and Blu-ray has failed to truly take off. The gaming war is just stupid. Why does one feel the need to bash another console because they own one and not the other? This generation is just a huge mess. Also games are more expensive, that makes me rage. ------------------- >> [Silent Hill: Shattered Memories]
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BlackLabel true seeker GameGrep pts: 1171 since: Jun 2008	Apr 10, 09 at 9:57pm re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	Dark Dom aren't you forgetting that many of the games that made the PS2 so great came after year 4 and 5 after release. The PS3 is only in it's 2nd year it's got a fair time on the market and to be honest the games out for it already are so much better than anything released before it. -------------------
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Dark Dom fatalframeIV Neo: Essential total posts: 11904 since: May 2004	Apr 10, 09 at 9:59pm re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	quote BlackLabel Dark Dom aren't you forgetting that many of the games that made the PS2 so great came after year 4 and 5 after release. The PS3 is only in it's 2nd year it's got a fair time on the market and to be honest the games out for it already are so much better than anything released before it. Ahh yeah I guess you're right, PS2 was pretty godawful when it came out. It had like... 6 games or something on release. I guess it's better to wait it out before it can be compared to the previous consoles. ------------------- >> [Silent Hill: Shattered Memories]
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mega laser sword guy James 4:12 just getting started! total posts: 107 since: Sep 2006	Apr 11, 09 at 1:22am re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	Yeah it's still early. Ideas get ported from previous consoles and then ideas get boosted. New ideas are born and clones appear. Like I said we're getting near the end of the beginning. This looks to be a great year for sony.
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ShadowGuard To Err is human; to forgive, infrequent Still Seekin' total posts: 3937 since: Apr 2006	Apr 11, 09 at 1:28am re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	Dark Dom, you do have a point, but blacklabel is correct, PS2 did not have a great start either, in sales or software, yet it sold 140million (more than any other console I believe). The PS2 series will eventually move to the PS3 (ei:Persona series, which will probably have its next game on the PS3) Team ICO is coming to the next-gen soon (watch for E3). DLC is helping the gaming community in so many ways and giving a whole new addition to the games we use to play. DLC is only a pro, because it is additional and not required, but it is there. quote Dark Dom The gaming war is just stupid. Why does one feel the need to bash another console because they own one and not the other? This generation is just a huge mess. Also games are more expensive, that makes me rage. Who was bashing a console in this thread, i thought this was actually a pretty clean thread in that regard. I personally do not like multiplatformed (especially now that I have a 360) because exclusives are always better quality than if the same game went multiplatform (this is for any console: 360 exclusive/PS3 exclusive > multiplatform) too each his own iLLmatic, glad to have a clean debate on here for once. -------------------
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ChiroVette (babysitter) (moderator) Action and Arcade [XBOX360] GTA Social Forum Grand Theft Auto IV [PS3] Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas [PS2] Writer's Lounge total posts: 33539 since: Mar 2002	Apr 11, 09 at 3:43am re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	I thought the PS2 had a fine start. Oh, and just for the record, I bought TEN games with both my PS2's when the console launched. Some of them were not top notch, but most were good, particularly when you consider it was the ONLY console of its generation out so far, and these were the FIRST games on the platform. Also, I really don't consider the PS2 as having a "slow start" as many SONY fanboys attempt to allude to while defending the PS3's DISMAL library of exclusives up until about 6 months ago when some games started releasing. Or do I need to remind people that after one measly year on the market, the PS2 had GTA III, Ratchet & Clank, Midnight Club I and II, Devil May Cry, Smuggler's Run I and II (and yes I LOVED those games lol) Ridge Racer 5, Time Splitters, SSX and its sequel, and a huge plethora of games I am forgetting. So, if by "slow start" you mean the console launched with 10-15 games (on day one!!) and after a year had DOZENS of really great titles, them LMAO I have to agree! ------------------- It's official. I have truly become a babysitter on Neo. Redemption, I want my $7.00 an hour!
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Red 9 The Sky Is My True Home... (moderator) General Playstation 3 total posts: 5604 GameGrep pts: 4041 since: Jun 2005	Apr 11, 09 at 3:48am re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	To be frank, the PS3 had the slowest start out of any console of this generation, and the last generation as well. Developers were hesitant to even touch the PS3, and the games it released with, of the few that were there, were average at best. Now, I wouldn't have been able to admit this two years ago when I bought mine, because like everyone else, I wanted to justify my purchase. Because let's be honest here; if you bought something, you want to feel like you made a good decision, especially when that decision cost you $600. But you can't deny that if it weren't for the loyalty of fans and the expectations we had, PS3 sales would have been abysmal on launch. But as is unanimous, the PS3 somehow pulled a magical rabbit out of its ass and has a significant library of games now, with many more great titles on the way. I can't say that its library can stack up to the 360 just yet, because it's obvious that it can't, but the difference is becoming so small that we really can't make that argument anymore. Once Uncharted 2, GOW3, InFamous and GT5 hit, we'll be well on our way to a well-rounded and well-supported console. ------------------- ! quote Ace Combat 4 Shattered Skies Amidst the blue skies, a link from the past to the future. The sheltering wings of the Protector... The flames of hatred scorch the skies, igniting Gaia's funeral pyre. The Scapegoat of Neoseeker
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ChiroVette (babysitter) (moderator) Action and Arcade [XBOX360] GTA Social Forum Grand Theft Auto IV [PS3] Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas [PS2] Writer's Lounge total posts: 33539 since: Mar 2002	Apr 11, 09 at 12:00pm re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	I give SONY a lot of credit for that. Because the PS3 exclusive library was so bad, I was actually worrying, as a PS3 owner, that the console would fail and all the money I invested in it would be for naught. Now things are looking a lot better for the platform. ------------------- It's official. I have truly become a babysitter on Neo. Redemption, I want my $7.00 an hour!
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Motorway Maniac I really look forward to the PS Wand! Seeketh Maximus total posts: 5112 since: Aug 2006	Apr 11, 09 at 12:22pm re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	quote Dark Dom quote BlackLabel Dark Dom aren't you forgetting that many of the games that made the PS2 so great came after year 4 and 5 after release. The PS3 is only in it's 2nd year it's got a fair time on the market and to be honest the games out for it already are so much better than anything released before it. Ahh yeah I guess you're right, PS2 was pretty godawful when it came out. It had like... 6 games or something on release. I guess it's better to wait it out before it can be compared to the previous consoles. I'd also quote that when the PS2 was first about we were into games like Crazy Taxi, Midnight Club, Timesplitters, GTA III etc. Then the Dreamcast fades out of the picture and along comes the XBOX. Now they had the best Online Play Experiance but they still lacked a sufficient gaming library to compete with the PS2. As for the Gamecube they were just dead as far as Third Party titles went and so the Nintendo Exclusive Fanbase rescues them. Way I see it now Nintendo has a Wii which appeals to an aea in the market, XBOX 360 launch there 360 early to get a better game library with their online activity and the PS3 had two flaws. Delay and expense. In fact the only thing I think that has saved it at the start is No fees on PSN. Summing that up I think Iwe can say that things have just gone upside down a bit but if that is now then I think the 360 is living its peak a bit early. Soon it'll be continuous Price Cuts vs. Power and what Playstation needs is the developers to make a brave attempt at the PS3's Power. Do we have to wait for Media Molecule to show them how it's done with there second project? ------------------- ModNation Racers Be the Legend, Host the Legend and Share the Legend! Create, Play and Share Racing Circuits, Cars and Characters in this all new DIY Racing Game.
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Red 9 The Sky Is My True Home... (moderator) General Playstation 3 total posts: 5604 GameGrep pts: 4041 since: Jun 2005	Apr 11, 09 at 6:00pm re: This Generation has been horrible so far
	quote ChiroVette I give SONY a lot of credit for that. Because the PS3 exclusive library was so bad, I was actually worrying, as a PS3 owner, that the console would fail and all the money I invested in it would be for naught. Now things are looking a lot better for the platform. Especially considering the timeframe in which it changed. In just two years, it went from a struggling giant to an underdog of potential. If it were MS, I'm sure it would have taken them longer to, erm, save their console. So yeah, credits for Sony; they managed to get the PS3 back on track and on the road to success. ------------------- ! quote Ace Combat 4 Shattered Skies Amidst the blue skies, a link from the past to the future. The sheltering wings of the Protector... The flames of hatred scorch the skies, igniting Gaia's funeral pyre. The Scapegoat of Neoseeker
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