His point is that FFVII was for millions, the RPG that got them into RPG's and that's why the game garners so much praise.Or something like that.

This message was edited by Gamesta100 on Jun 05 2009.

That doesn't mean it's not overrated and that it'll likely only be fun for those seeking out nostalgia.

I always agree with Final Blade on this topic of FFVII and FFVII remake.

FFVII, not over-rated... While it may be for you, personal opinions do not really count here. FFVII started the way for RPGs in the West. None of the other "so-called" ffvii killers that came out before it really mattered to the West. Basically, without FFVII, the West would have taken longer to accept RPGs. THAT IS NOT over-rated, that is game changing. Just like the first Halo is NOT over-rated no matter what people say. It was a game changer in the FPS market on a console, which is now the #1 genre on consoles.

As far as actually doing a FFVII Remake, it maybe not be soon because of everything on SE's plate, but it will come. Like Final Blade, it will be the surest business move to make a HUGE profit. SE would be idiots not to do a FFVII Remake... period, I do not care how much of a FFVII old skool you think you are, business comes before your old skool nostalgia...

Well, then that points more toward personal opinion. You may like the story or characters of another RPG, FFVII is not my all time favorite game either (although it is up there ) but there is no reason to call it over-rated for what it did for RPGs.

I was not really directing that all at you DMD.

quote FinalBlade

SE basically put themselves in a position with all the beating around the bush and statements like "Compilation isn't over" where a remake has to happen. Otherwise they'll lose a shit ton of fans. FF7 remake is a money making machine, more so than any new game that'll come out which I said before. In a business standpoint, remake is a Green Mine that would be idiotic of SE NOT to do. They already expressed their deep interest in a remake which sorta confirms that could be the next project after they finish with the current titles.

I agree with you on all that but i still dont see it happening...but thats just me....i am with you though i'm
one of the fans that wants to see a 7 remake...now for my second question..

quote FinalBlade

"Compilation isn't over"

What compliation??? what are you talking about?

quote ShadowGuard

FFVII, not over-rated... While it may be for you, personal opinions do not really count here. FFVII started the way for RPGs in the West. None of the other "so-called" ffvii killers that came out before it really mattered to the West. Basically, without FFVII, the West would have taken longer to accept RPGs. THAT IS NOT over-rated, that is game changing. Just like the first Halo is NOT over-rated no matter what people say. It was a game changer in the FPS market on a console, which is now the #1 genre on consoles.

There's no saying for certain that it even did that. Breath of Fire, Phantasy Star, Shining Force, Chrono Cross, and the Mana series all had huge followings and were infamous as the greatest RPG's well before Final Fantasy Seven came along. Just because you hadn't heard of them, or Final Blade hadn't heard of them, doesn't mean other older gamers who were actually of the SNES and NES generations didn't. It hardly defined or changed RPG's, it was just the first step in 3d RPG's that gathered attention.

Bah, i meant Chrono Trigger, which came out in 1995. my mistake. FF7 came out in 1997.

It was the jump into 3d, that's it. It's hardly amazing. Stories had been similarly compelling in RPG's for years previously, and the battle engine was hardly fresh or new. It's not nearly as massive or unique as people make it out to be.

Staying power hardly means anything, as it's determined by fans. All of the series that i've named are still around and thriving quite well. Popularity does not necessitate quality by any means.

It did nothing new as far as story, gameplay, or character development, it just was hyped.

quote Chris717

I am only buying it from what i heard. So if Kik36 is wrong, i have wasted £10 for a game i may not like.

Wait....what? I don't recall ever mentioning to anyone to buy this game. LOL It's a great game and all, but can't say I'd pay $10 for the digital copy when I have it on disc. For those who have never played it.....it's up to you to determine if $10 for an outdated game is right for you. I don't think it's a bad deal personally, but there are better games out there.

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quote FinalBlade
"Compilation isn't over"

What compliation??? what are you talking about?

FFVII Advent Children (movie)
FFVII Crisis Core (PSP)
FFVII Dirge of Cerberus (PS2)

Moonset, i've played the game and i liked it just fine.Just like FF2,6, and 8. But it's really not at all as amazing as people pump it out to be. Yes, it was the jump into 3d, but it's really not that incredible to think about when you observe the fact that it was the first on a new console that could support three dimensional graphics. It should not be commended as the greatest ever for simply using the hardware of the system it was created for.

You can throw around baseless accusations of me being a "hater", and in return i can simply reply with accusations of you being a rabid fanboy, but that won't get us anywhere.

The CGI, again, was simply utilizing the hardware of the system it was created for. You don't see people going "OMG, Metal Gear Solid 2 was the greatest PS2 game because it was the first to fully utilize it's hardware". Really, that's not nearly as significant a thing as you're making it out to be.

Final Fantasy Seven did not bring RPG's into the mainstream, there were various predecessors of the genre that were held in very high public acclaim. Again, see Phantasy Star, Shining Force, or the Mana series. If you count japan only games, look at Fire Emblem. If you wan't non-turn based, look at Legend of Zelda.

It can be your favorite game, i really don't care. but it's not the "OMG PERFECT GAMING AWESOMENEZZ BEST EVER" game people make it out to be. The reality of the situation is that people who never played FF7 are not going to enjoy this re-release of it nearly as much as those who are playing it for nostalgia, if they enjoy the dated game at all.

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FFVII Dirge of Cerberus (PS2)

that came out years ago....are they remaking it or something?? also if we want to talk about great rpg's that came out before ff7 how come no one has mentioned Legend Of Gaia For the snes....or was that mentioned???

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FFVII Dirge of Cerberus (PS2)

that came out years ago....are they remaking it or something?? also if we want to talk about great rpg's that came out before ff7 how come no one has mentioned Legend Of Gaia For the snes....or was that mentioned???

Yeah, but it's part of the FFVII compilation that FB was talking about and you were asking about. There have been comments from SE that they aren't done with the compilation so we all expect to see more games from that Universe in the future.