So I'm playing the Too Human demo right now.

It sucks.

Gratz. Consider your life complete, playing a crappy demo. Happens all the time.

That's ashamed. I was pretty interested in in Too Human when I first learned about it, but after reading the previews it doesn't sound like its worth the cost of buying a 360 and the game.

If there are any must-have games on the 360, they are Crackdown and Earth Defense Force 2017. Honorable mentions to Lost Odyssey, and Senko no Ronde.

quote Akira_Ex

If there are any must-have games on the 360, they are Crackdown and Earth Defense Force 2017

I didn't like the Too Human demo, either. The controls were bad, the camera was a pain and it just wasn't fun. I gave up trying to enjoy it after I realized that it wasn't getting any better. The story was pretty interesting, but the game was so dull that it didn't really help.

Oh well, at least there's Fable 2 to look forward to. I hope they're able to pull it off this time. Fable was an interesting game, but it was lacking in many aspects.

Personally, I'm waiting for IU and SO4 for 360 RPGs.

<3 tri-Ace

Does anyone hear listen to IGN Nintendo team's NVC podcast? They finally got the new one up! I just finished listening to it and it was great. Pretty funny too as it's the post-E3 edition. Matt said some funny stuff like going to E3 and ignoring the hardcore gamers is like "going to church and ignoring Jesus Crist." I love those guys.

Bad news though is that Matt said that Nintendo pretty much confirmed on their Japanese website that Disaster: Day of Crisis is officially vaporware, which sucks cause I was really looking forward to it. I wonder what Monolith is doing now?

Nah, I don't listen to it; I just read the summaries that come afterwards

Speaking of which:

GoNintendo

quote Nintendo Voice Chat Episode 16

Wii MotionPlus
- Long overdue
- Is basically what the Wiimote should have been initially
- Measures subtle rotational shifts, 1:1 - Craig says it actually works, he likes sword-fighting
- Craig “called” a new Wii Sports game right before Nintendo’s conference

Wii Sports Resort
- All 3 minigames were pretty fun
- Matt liked the disc dog game, since you can see how accurate Wii Motion Plus is - worked perfectly
- Angle, rotation played a huge part where the disc would land
- Craig thought sword-fighting was really accurate as well

WiiSpeak
- Laughably made
- Can put it anywhere in the room, cord looks gigantic (based on photos)
- Made for 3 - 4 people playing on a couch
- A third-party might make a work-around eventually (headset, microphone)
- Can use wireless keyboard in AC: City Folk
- Matt will remain skeptical until he can really test it
- Nintendo playing it safe again - Craig

Animal Crossing: City Folk
- It’s a polished DS game
- GameCube graphics, maybe even DS graphics
- Eguchi was surprised when he was told the graphics look like GCN/DS
- Scrolling world
- No gestures for chopping down trees or anything
- Could have been Wii’s version of home - Matt was looking forward to a deeper experience
- City looks gimped - only about four stores
- Craig wonders what is new with the game
- Could end up being a great game, but not much different

Guitar Hero On Tour Decades
- Stream new songs to the old game
- Cool technology, especially since this is on the DS

1st party games
- Nintendo made previous announcements about DS games
- Announced Rhythm Heaven, but not at the conference - was on the press site
- Showed Wario Land behind closed doors, is a fun game

The Conduit
- Game of the show
- Looks really good, controls are great
- A little framey, but High Voltage promises it will be perfect
- Control options are very detailed
- Weapons inventive, use Wiimote well
- Real-time FPS control scheme (can change controls on the fly)
- At first, when Craig saw the game, he didn’t know that The Conduit was a Wii game

- de Blob was a big surprise for Matt - the game is polished, really coming together, some great visual effects

- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09 looks better, controls better than ever before - Matt
- Matt likes Madden, too

Wii Music
- Worst game of E3 for Matt
- 10 and under crowd will only enjoy it
- First game for mainstream audience Craig won’t give to his parents

- Cammie Dunaway is technically replacing Reggie, Denise Kaigler replacing Perrin
- Cammie doesn’t write her own speeches, so Matt says we shouldn’t blame her for E3 performance - Give her some slack
- Craig says she is very nice, the snowboarding story is true
- The one writing Cammie’s speech (and Cammie herself for comments on HDD, etc) needed to realize the audience it was being presented to
- There is clearly a storage solution for Wii, but someone needs to come right out and say it

The good news of E3
- Miyamoto made promises
- Mario + Zelda teams reformed
- New Zelda is underway
- New Pikmin confirmed (but should have shown gameplay)
- Craig argued they should show a teaser or something for the fans

- E3 show was a misstep because Nintendo totally ignored hardcore - Matt
- Iwata apologized for the show
- Matt thinks at Nintendo’s next event, there will be a lot of hardcore games because of their E3 showing
- Craig loved Spaceworld, Matt thinks they should start campaigning for it to return for Nintendo
- E3 was a “we don’t care event” for companies - no energy, places vacant

Trackmania
- PC arcadey racing game
- Ideas from PC version make a good transition to DS
- Create own tracks
- Track can be edited in the track editor itself
- Race engine is smooth, but some framerate issues
- Fun, bouncy racing

Wario Land
- 4:3 mode is lame
- Oldschool platformer
- A lot of fun, hand-drawn animation is great
- Smart puzzles
- Controls tight, stylized
- Shake it move is delayed a bit - takes Wario time to react

- Fatal Frame in the IGN office Friday, should come to the US at some point

Reader questions
- Nintendo might show off some hardcore games at TGS or maybe a new Spaceworld
- Nintendo understands the core, but Craig thinks marketing department is out of touch with core audience - Iwata makes final decisions for what to show at conference
- Matt thought Kid Icarus would be at E3 - “What is true one day is not true the next and we don’t really make the news, we tell you what we hear”
- Matt would recommend Wario Land to anyone, Matt used to think it would be a quick cash-in game (but not anymore)
- We have to see if there is more to City Folk than the bug catching, fishing, etc. - apparently more to the online mode then Nintendo showed
- Matt thinks there could be more that will be announced before the end of the year (Fatal Frame, other things Nintendo could potentially publish from third-parties)
- Matt thinks Nintendo will eventually pack Wii MotionPlus with the Wii controllers in the future
- When will Cammie be fired? Not anytime soon - Only 1 show, Matt thinks we should give her a break
- Matt + Craig loved The Dark Knight
- Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia uses the same engine as previous two DS titles
- Matt wants to review Wii Music so he can blast it (Matt hopes the game will have something redeeming when it ships)
- Is Nintendo holding back own lineup for third-parties? Matt doesn’t thinks so, no rush for them to flood market with their own software
- Matt + Craig won’t be sad if E3 doesn’t come back next year
- No word on Disaster: Day of Crisis, Matt fears the future for the game - might be heading down Project H.A.M.M.E.R’s path
- FFCC: The Crystal Bearers - still in development, Square Enix had nothing to show
- NOA not knowing about Fatal Frame 4 - The people being questioned were probably the executives, won’t know about it until there is a press release/are coached about it
- Mad World was eyes-on - looked cool + fun but the style is a weird mashup
- Game of the show for any console: Matt - Mirror’s Edge or Dead Space, Craig - Fallout 3
- Nintendo won’t make a switch to disc-based format in future handhelds because of loadtimes and battery power
- Nintendo hasn’t released their own game for the VC in over 3 months - Matt thinks maybe Nintendo is trying to address all third-party games in their queue
- Favorite instrument in Wii Music - Matt: “The power-off button”
- Nintendo didn’t show much for the DS at all - Craig thinks that Nintendo could at least make a New Super Mario Bros. 2 on the same engine
- There was no DS redesign because of booming DSL sales

Honestly, a lot of this is really stupid. Animal Crossing looks the the GC game because that is AC's style. There is really no way to improve big headed simple avatars from one generation to the next without really changing the style. Its like complaining that the Mii's in Wii Sports Resort look like the Miis in Wii Sports. That's the style of the games, get over it.
At first, I was a little disappointed in the lack of motion controls, especially in fishing. But, when I really started thinking about it, I imagine the novelty of such motions would wear thin quickly. With all the complaining IGN does about waggle, asking for waggle in a game just seems downright idiotic.

quote Akira_EX

Nah, I don't listen to it; I just read the summaries that come afterwards

quote NVC 16

The one writing Cammie’s speech (and Cammie herself for comments on HDD, etc) needed to realize the audience it was being presented to

quote NVC 16

E3 was a “we don’t care event” for companies - no energy, places vacant

quote NVC 16

FFCC: The Crystal Bearers - still in development, Square Enix had nothing to show

quote NVC 16

NOA not knowing about Fatal Frame 4 - The people being questioned were probably the executives, won’t know about it until there is a press release/are coached about it

quote bbb7002004

Honestly, a lot of this is really stupid. Animal Crossing looks the the GC game because that is AC's style. There is really no way to improve big headed simple avatars from one generation to the next without really changing the style.

quote bbb7002004

At first, I was a little disappointed in the lack of motion controls, especially in fishing.

all of this talk about how great some of these upcoming games are makes me excited to own a wii and makes me wish it would hurry up and get repaired.

quote Paper Mario Dude

all of this talk about how great some of these upcoming games are makes me excited to own a wii and makes me wish it would hurry up and get repaired.

Lens is dirty. been 3 months without brawl.

Same thing happened to mine, but I just got mine back and im brawlin' baby!