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McFearless1991unwashed heathen
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in the cutscene when nero unites yamato, when the screen is black u can hear kyrie scream, nero then said "from that day forward my arm changed, and a voice whispered power...give me more...power" my guess is that he was trying to save kyrie from a demon which just happened to be nelo angelo, vergil saw potential and sealed himself inside nero to regain his own power. and i think its funny people keep taling about the time line... considering dante looks in his mid thirties in devil may cry 4 but is actually hundreds of years old..... nero could esaily be that old also but has no memory of being so.... but lets be honest capcom could say anything about him and it would be true cos they have a bit of a reputation for making up crazy stories to fill their plot holes
and also, when sparda sealed the hell gate his power was majorly depleted say to a 6th of what it was before, a devil arm would equate to about a 6th of neros body? whos to say that nero isnt sparda but with his power depleted and unable to remember this happening cos i would imagine closing the hell gate could cause amnesia lol. in short perhaps nero was once sparda but since his power has been depleted, the devil bringer arm is all that remains of his former form. this would also explain vergils devil trigger being neros spirit, vergil could have inherited it from sparda. nero being able to fix the sword also supports this as i doubt that sparda would give his evil son a devil arm that he could not controll himself This message was merged with other messages by Daisy (moderator) | |
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CalTheTwinBladeunwashed heathen
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@McFearless
About how much sense did both of your posts make? You can be truthful with me I'm not saying that they were stupid, just worded awkwardly. Now let's say they were stupid. How would Nelo Angelo be able to attack Nero and Kyrie when at that time he's supposed to be dead(supposedly)? Yea Dante's like hundreds of years old...but then 20 years ago (going by what Trish said in DMC 1) he lost his mom and brother (Vergil). So damn his mom must have been hella old, but wait she's human. Nero being Sparda...hmm that makes him really old like damn you old. But stated in another post Nero was an orphan that was raised with Kyrie and Credo. So by your saying he had to shrink his balls and penis and become a little boy again that lost his memory from sealing Temen-Ni-Gru? But that's just saying if your logic is stupid. And yes Vergil had to have inherited his DT from his father...along with Dante. Nelo Angelo is not a trait, but the result of Mundus's corruption that turned Vergil into Nelo Angelo. Now for my take on things. DMC 4 quote by Dante: "We're the same you...and...I...and them." gives hint that Nero has some connection to demons in general. It could be his bloodlink to Sparda or any demon. "Though I suspect you carry something different than them." Refers to his human heart that is the most case that half-demons usually retain that aspect of the human heart. To where demons are those who gave up their hearts for power. "You'll come to learn soon enough." gives even more of a hint that Dante refers to the half-demon trait of still having a human heart. Which makes me think that yes Nero was born with the blood of a demon running through his veins. I'm just using those as the basis of this post and not quoting any other character in the game since most are in other posts. Nero has Sparda's blood in him stated by the characters, Agnus and Sanctus. Sanctus and Agnus as everyone knows are considered demons (taking my comment of a demon is one who gives up their heart for power). Credo (under Sanctus's orders) sends Nero out on special case missions that set him aside from other order members. In cases where it had to deal with high level demons (as one said in a post about Berial that Nero can handle his own with his sword hand from his super natural strength). This gives even more hint that Nero is definately a half-demon. So Nero being Vergil's (or even Dante's in a twisted way) is a concept that is not false at all but a big possibility. The scene in Agnus'slaboratory. But before that let's turn back to DMC 3. So Dante and Vergil fight atop the Temen-Ni-Gru. Dante gets whooped and Vergil stabs him with the Rebellion. Right after that Dante's demonic power awakens inside him. Now the scene in Agnus'slab. Nero is impaled by Agnus with on of the gladius' in the presence of the Yamato (see where I'm going with this?). Then he rips the demon sword out of him and you would have to think, some of his blood went around that room. Then you have the flashback with Kyrie screaming and Nero yelling out to her. Then his DT activates along with reforging (or resurecting if you want) Yamato. Then the quote "From that day forth my arm changed...and a voice echoed through my head...'Power...give me more power...'" etc. and he uses Yamato. Now if you missed my point here it is. HOW DID VERGIL GET HIS DT?! Simple slit his wrist like a emo kid (just kidding). No he gave some of his blood to Yamato for it to activate since it seemed to be the case with Dante (the reason I used the iconic or running joke by others sword stabbing of Dante). If that's said and backed up by Dante's Awakeming (hehehe yea I did it), then couldn't the same thing be said for Nero's and Yamato's awakening (though in the sword's case resurrecting)? Remember I said the gladius demon was plunged (impaled) into Nero then ripped back out. Blood definitely (yes I know I spelled definitely with an a it just sounds like it belongs there instead sometimes I will be using the correct spelling from now on) would have to have splurted out of the wound or whipped off of the blade onto Yamato giving it it's 'vampiric' need for blood lol. That is though only theroy and not really proven. Or the Yamato can resurrect itself in the presence of the Sparda or bloodline relation whose will is strong enough to command it or needs it's power (who knows Vergil could even be stuck in the damn thing lol). (Yes I use alot of side quotations usually implying them as fun banter on the side to make you laugh or to back up certain information). The voice inside Nero's head is reminiscent of Vergil's need for power but not only that. Doesn't his facial exprseeion remind you of Dante's when his inner-demon awakens in him? Does to me. Which possibly shows even more of a relation to the twins than most of what people say. So what I'm really trying to say is that the voice in Nero's head was probably the inner-demon ready to release itself in order to protect Kyrie but since it was not ready to be fully awaken or through some other means of not being completed, pre-maturely released resulting in only the change of Nero's arm. Though again that is only theroy. Why the spirit looks so big. If you ever watched like Shaman King then you'd get it but yea it's big because it's over shadowing Nero and helping him out being in a form that's most useful to him at the time. Yes which can also help with the it's Vergil since I used the whole Shaman King example though I've used enough concepts,quotes and facts that can discredit that to saying Nero is his own and the arm it's own (Nero's). I feel I got my point across in this post so I'm done. Yes Nero has the big possibility to being a Sparda Blood Boy (oh yea Death Note reference which no one will get) with what I said though with some people they won't stand for my blasphemy. Like I told someone else most of the references are more reminiscent to the other games and the characters Dante and Vergil (the whole Dante is always being stabbed in each game but 3 is where his power awakens reflective to how Nero got his and Vergil's ever vigilent quest for power as the voice in Nero's head, it just seems like alot of reminiscent coincidences that people look into too much). Any enjoy my 2 cents and see what you think of it all. | |
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CalTheTwinBladeunwashed heathen
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Edits: In the Vergil being Nero's dad I didn't type dad or father so sorry about that and hope this helps correct that for those who noticed it.
Another is a spelling error expression which I spelled exprseeion without thinking in the part where I compare the facial expressions of DMC 3 Dante and Nero when they both of their demons awaken inside them. And I stated this one in the post I know but I wanna state it here too that I spelled definitely definately which yes I, in my opinion, think it fits better than saying definitely since it definitely sounds like I'm making a definition sound important than the word I'm using itself so I consider the words seperate. | |
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Tri-Edgeunwashed heathen
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When dante said we must keep in the family. I think he meant that he should have it back. But after fighting fighting him he likes you know what boorrow it for a while.
The arm didnt react to dante he just unleashed the arm on Dante.Meaning that Nero had the arm prior to DMC4 story line. So if anything he has so demon blood in him, who knows capcom will tell us in due time. My belief is that he just got the power at birth and hes been able to hide it. Well not really. i think he just recetly got it . Due to having a cast on it i dont think u can keep it hidden to long. Thou he resurrectd yamato i still dont think its actuall back , becuase its not really solid its more spritual since u can really use it. Hence it fading after everytattack . Aslo as said he could reforge yamato due to extreme emotional ness XD. Just like with Dante. Nero must have the arm fro some time due to him being left handed, if anyone saw that. Plus the demon behind as said be fore shaminking type style, has yamato inside his arm , elbow to be exact. Which i dont ever remeber vergil having done. Thou if vergil were to come back i would think he wouldnt have been like dmc3 since he saw that dante overpowerd him quickly and then has awesome moment with his bro in the end. This message was merged with other messages by Daisy (moderator) | |
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SMan30unwashed heathen
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I think Nero is someone's son or sumthing. I also believe he always had that arm.....cuz when he goes to fight the false saviour, he says God i dont y u made my arm this way. So obviously his arm was always like that.......he also seems to have some ties to vergil since yamato responded to his arm in the lab room. But all of this is just theory.
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Jeez! Look at all these guest posts! You guys should sign up! It's free! Also you would be able to edit your posts to put additional info in instead of double posting! =)
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marcin388unwashed heathen
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Nero must be connected somehow with Vergil.
+Yamato reacted to Nero , and in the same scene something woke up in nero, his eyes changed, he was saying that he need to gain power. Now best part- in the story theater look at the picture from this scene, i can see there Vergil instead of Nero. +Sanctus needed blood of sparda and he used Nero (you can see this in the scene called "the end") +He could change to a demon after getting yamato +He has got blue demon like vergil had. - Different personality - Uses guns So in my opinion he has got vergil's spirit in his body but he also has got his own soul. Maybe he will find two half's of vergil's amulet and then he will change to a vergil ( I don't want Vergil in nero's body because it doesn't match well | |
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marcin388unwashed heathen
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And Nero CAN'T be vergil's son because who would have sex with someone who lived in the hell? And vergil had personality that couldn't let him have a girlfriend.
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Pardon me, I am new but I have read enough to say something...
First off, Nero does have a resemblance of Dante and Virgil so It is quite possible that Nero is the son of Virgil. How? In DMC3, Dante says "Its been a whole year sense we last met" so Dante had no connection to Virgil which gave Virgil a time to find someone and actually impregnate her so he would have an offspring (My guess he did fall in love but she must have died for some reason). Virgil is enraged throughout DMC3 which shows he had a bad experience and made him like that, my guess again is the death of someone he loved. Second, The Order said that they gathered the fragments of Nelo Angelo but did not say where, so my guess is they went to the location where Dante and Virgil fought in DMC1 (I always forget the name of the place). Nero's arm is said by some unknown source (Meaning I forgot where I picked it up T-T) that his arm was formed by a force or something. Something must have happened that Nero lost his own arm and got a demonic arm instead. (This might seam stupid so disregard if wished). I stand this part... When Nero was at the chamber where Yamato was shattered, Yamato resurrected to save Nero (My guess is that Virgil who was trapped in Yamato and decided to save him). Nero was possessed by Virgil only briefly to save him but that is it. My guess (If Virgil is truely the father of Nero) He saved Nero because he recognized his own son and spared his life. Nero does not know his own father because he must not have been old enough to remember him. My guess is that between the year that Dante had not seen Virgil is when he fell in love and raised a child but she must have died and he must have gotten enraged. My guess he left and when he came back, he found his wife died and Nero missing. That is when he went far to obtain the power of his father Sparda. The blood of Nero if his mother was a human would mean that Nero has a 33.3% Devil blood within him and that would maybe explain why he has a devil arm (Maybe leading to the reason why Nero had it now and not when he was born). I hope my post was useful in some way. If you need more ideas (Because I got plenty) please email me in elrre@hotmail.com hope to see you all soon. | |
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quote ElrreNo the only reason Vergil was upset was because he couldn't protect his mom and he blames himself for not having enough power. | |
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