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Sigma was just an update near enough, the original on the xbox was amazin and what's more amazin was that i actually completed it, which even surprised me since i was average.



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quote Sonny RFC
Sigma was just an update near enough, the original on the xbox was amazin and what's more amazin was that i actually completed it, which even surprised me since i was average.
Ive completed Ninja Gaiden so many times by now. On Normal on Hard and even on Very Hard, but Master Ninja was too much for me lol. Id have to dedicate myself to that game to beat it on that insane level of difficulty.


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quote iLLmatic
He's always said Ninja Gaiden is better than Devil May Cry in the past. This interview is just a surprisingly less aggressive Itagaki.
qft.

and anyway, wtf? what do you expect from him? .. think he'll say "oh god DMC is soo uber. my NG is pure crap compared to that masterpiece."

tch.. this Itagaki disses almost every competing game.. this is DMC so he can't say it's "half assed" or something like that, hence he just said ,ahem, "it's er, different".

Itagaki is annoying.
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quote iLLmatic
He's always said Ninja Gaiden is better than Devil May Cry in the past. This interview is just a surprisingly less aggressive Itagaki.
qft.

and anyway, wtf? what do you expect from him? .. think he'll say "oh god DMC is soo uber. my NG is pure crap compared to that masterpiece."

tch.. this Itagaki disses almost every competing game.. this is DMC so he can't say it's "half assed" or something like that, hence he just said ,ahem, "it's er, different".

Itagaki is annoying.
Lol, I remember him calling Heavenlyy Sword half assed. I can see what he meant but it was a good game.


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DMC 1 and 3 were awesome. Great games. However Ninja Gaiden IS better than 2 and 4. And from what I saw in Ninja Gaiden 2? That just makes me want it even more.



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As much as I love DMC4, its the 3rd best of the series. the 2nd game is obviously the worst of the bunch, but DMC4, is FAR better than it. DMC1 and 3 however are much better than 4, not a great deal better, but still better. Ninja Gaiden, Black or Sigma however, in my opinon is inferior to DMC1 and 3, but is better or at least equal DMC4 (I prefer to say equal, but thats me). Ninja Gaiden 2 might change that and might be better than DMC1 and 3, but I wont hold my breath as I have an emotional attachment to those games. In that respect Iam biased towards DMC, but I still love Ninja Gaiden and I wish I had 360 to enjoy the sequel, hell the first Ninja Gaiden WAS the reason I got the original Xbox.


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quote Tenken
The second playable character was horrible, the Dragons Claw and Tigers Fang(the twin swords) had terrible UT/ET and lag between moves, and they removed a few of the unlockables.

More or less, Sigma was just a prettier version with one or two new enemies.

However, his personal reason for hating Sigma, straight from his own mouth, was that the team designing it was just a bunch of rookies who simply added to what was already done in the first place.

Then Blame him...Sigma could have been so much better if his enormous ego wasn't in his way(and by this I also mean if he would actually made Sigma). If he honestly can't see the amount of money he would get making NG Multiplatform then, im sorry but he's an idiot.

Regardless, NG2 looks great, and while Sigma was my first game into the series I loved it alot.


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Sigma did no better for sales than Black or the original did, more or less proving that there wasn't any more money in it than exclusivity.

Had Team Ninja actually made Sigma, we wouldn't even have Ninja Gaiden II coming out this soon. Sigma was a *bleep*ing waste of development time. His ego? How the hell did his ego get in the way, he was wanting another team to take a shot and see what they could do. They failed.

Multiplatform games are more often failures in this genre. Look at DMC4, half of the game was recycled, it had half the weapons of the previous game on a weaker console(PS2).


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re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.

Not really if you combine both Nero's and Dante's weapons, it was more than DMC3, 2 and 1.

His ego would be thinking the 360 is better suited for Ninja Gaiden, instead of realizing the true potential of Ninja Gaiden games(being really good) on the PS3, that he can personally make.
He allowed another team, rookies, to make a game to only do what he has done with the others. Why would you even give it to another team who doesn't even have experience in the games? Thats what I mean, if he actually took the time to make it himself with the main team, don't you think Sigma could've been that much better?
Yeah sure NG2 may not be released at the current time, but I bet you it could have benefited him at the end. Making more money. And hell he could've made NG2 multiplatforms, allowing every gamer to enjoy the last ninja gaiden game, if this is to be his last.

Again your comparing apples to oranges Tenken. DMC is no where near the quality of Ninja Gaiden, I expect a great developer like Itagaki, to make fantastic games. Capcom hasn't really been known to make stellar games on a constant basis like Itagaki.



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Capcom hasn't really been known to make stellar games on a constant basis like Itagaki.

what the *bleep* do you mean by that ?

btw I find this funny how you guys call Sigma creators "rookies". lol.
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quote Final Blade
Capcom hasn't really been known to make stellar games on a constant basis like Itagaki.
You've got to be kidding me with that. You're seriously telling me that Capcom haven't produced loads of top notch games for the past two decades? And had fantastic success with franchise after franchise like G&G, Megaman, Streetfighter, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry and others? And branched out into brilliant experimental stuff like Gregory Horror Show, Viewtiful Joe, Killer 7? And been trusted to produce marquee character titles for other developers, like The Legend of Zelda games? And been one of the top-level names in videogame production throughout almost their entire existence?

What has this guy done in the meantime? Tecmo have produced exactly two franchises in 20 years: DOA and Ninja Gaiden. Both of which have remained virtually unchanged apart from a lick of paint here and there since they hit the Xbox in 2003-2004, while other developers concentrate on actually producing something a little fresher. His only other well-known work was DOA Beach Volleyball, which was pathetic (And not a little creepy). That's not a "consistent basis" at all. It's very easy to be elitist when you rest on the laurels of one success, but keep milking it and it gets old quick.

And if you had backed up Itagaki's claim that NG had deeper mechanics than DMC, you might possibly have had a point. But if you're at all serious about your claim in the quote above, then you must be insane, quite frankly.

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FB that is the most stupidest thing you have ever said. Capcom shits triple A titles. The Resident Evil series ALONE has sold 30+ MILLION copies. They also made Mega Man, Street Fighter, just a whole bunch of classics and great games that gamers have acclaimed as great games since th NES days.

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re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.

We never called them rookies, Itagaki himself did.

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What has this guy done in the meantime? Tecmo have produced exactly two franchises in 20 years: DOA and Ninja Gaiden. Both of which have remained virtually unchanged apart from a lick of paint here and there since they hit the Xbox in 2003-2004, while other developers concentrate on actually producing something a little fresher. His only other well-known work was DOA Beach Volleyball, which was pathetic (And not a little creepy). That's not a "consistent basis" at all. It's very easy to be elitist when you rest on the laurels of one success, but keep milking it and it gets old quick.

This message was edited by Jake Rockwell on May 27 2008.
To honestly say that DOA hasn't changed is possibly the stupidest thing I've heard anyone say about DOA. It's changed more than Tekken and Virtua Fighter EASILY. Look at DOA 1 to 2. The fighting became a lot smoother, only from 2 to 3 did it not change much. Moving to DOA4 was the biggest change of any fighting series, adding in ground game, online tag, and revamping a lot of characters.

To honestly say that NG hasn't changed, you'd only be half-right. Black and Sigma(the former being the better) pretty much were rehashes with more content. II on the other, looks to be an entirely different game thanks to the addition of the Obliteration technique by itself. That's different, the makes the AI respond differently, that makes reacting more important.

Consider this, Team Ninja is ONE team within Tecmo(don't ask me to name other teams, I only follow TN), Capcom is an entire company. As Final said, apples and oranges. I'd love to see Team Ninja compete with Capcom in that regard, it would truly show who is better.

And for you to honestly say Tecmo Bowl was bad, shame on you.


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