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CapcomDevil ultra seeker total posts: 1549 since: Mar 2008	May 31, 08 at 3:26pm re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	Halo is fun, but badly over-rated. MGS4 will probably sell millions.
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ulmelinejoodik Horror Inn manager N'Somniac total posts: 4750 since: Dec 2002	May 31, 08 at 3:29pm re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	quote Okay, lets spicen up the activities here. First gys thanks for all the info. Now I have played and owned every DMC game. DMC is far more famous and with larger fan base series than NG. I just started to look up NG today after reading all the posts. Looks like a great game with more technical gameplay than DMC slash-slash-jump-shoot. But DMC looks so much better and flashier. Presentation is far greater. If I put NG and DMC running simultaniously, all eyes will be on DMC. Sure as hell. In the other hand NG seems more in depth game. Maybe I don't know about the game because it is X-Box game and I do not follow X-Box at all. Now it turns out PS3 has its NG Sigma which you all badmouth. It seems bit like DMC4 which didn't live up to its predecessors. I missed out God of War on PS2 and i regret it so I hope 3rd on PS3 will be just as good. So guys, should I try out PS3 NG (I don't wannna miss out another cool game) or is it a spin off which I shouldn't bother with and NG is only worth getting into if you have X-Box (I will not buy X-B!). On the subject of disputes here, it seems that DMC is bit superior overall with smoother gameplay and much more memorable characters and original ideas and weapons. NG seems just....a well done ninja game, where you play as ninja called ninja and do ninja stuff. But do not take my comments seriously, I have never played NG. Can someone also compare NG to Onimusha (I have played Oni). No-one cares to comment? To me it seems that this one bloke keeps selling the same NG game over and over again for 4 years now! -------------------
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CapcomDevil ultra seeker total posts: 1549 since: Mar 2008	May 31, 08 at 3:51pm re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	DMC is an odd game, its quite unlike any other games out, and its extremely appealing. I must agree that, Ninja Gaiden just looks like a Ninja game doing Ninja stuff. DMC looks...well stylish, unpredicatable and varying in weaponry and mechanics, gameset which seems to be carried over into each Itagaki game which seems dull. NG looks too...predictable? A ninja doing Ninja things. Dante always changes and you don't know what he's going to do next.
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Tenken Requiescat in Pace Neoholic total posts: 10030 since: Aug 2004	May 31, 08 at 3:57pm re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	quote ulmelinejoodik quote Okay, lets spicen up the activities here. First gys thanks for all the info. Now I have played and owned every DMC game. DMC is far more famous and with larger fan base series than NG. I just started to look up NG today after reading all the posts. Looks like a great game with more technical gameplay than DMC slash-slash-jump-shoot. But DMC looks so much better and flashier. Presentation is far greater. If I put NG and DMC running simultaniously, all eyes will be on DMC. Sure as hell. In the other hand NG seems more in depth game. Maybe I don't know about the game because it is X-Box game and I do not follow X-Box at all. Now it turns out PS3 has its NG Sigma which you all badmouth. It seems bit like DMC4 which didn't live up to its predecessors. I missed out God of War on PS2 and i regret it so I hope 3rd on PS3 will be just as good. So guys, should I try out PS3 NG (I don't wannna miss out another cool game) or is it a spin off which I shouldn't bother with and NG is only worth getting into if you have X-Box (I will not buy X-B!). On the subject of disputes here, it seems that DMC is bit superior overall with smoother gameplay and much more memorable characters and original ideas and weapons. NG seems just....a well done ninja game, where you play as ninja called ninja and do ninja stuff. But do not take my comments seriously, I have never played NG. Can someone also compare NG to Onimusha (I have played Oni). No-one cares to comment? To me it seems that this one bloke keeps selling the same NG game over and over again for 4 years now! Ninja Gaiden Black was released to give non-Xbox live fans the taste of the Master Ninja tournament. Sigma was made by a different team entirely and had the TN name slapped on it. Now that I've actually played NGII, I can honestly comment and say it's nowhere near the same game. The added abilities and weapons truly makes it a king of the Action-genre contender. -------------------
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pyramidreaper The Game Still Seekin' since: Jul 2004	May 31, 08 at 5:46pm re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	quote Maybe I don't know about the game because it is X-Box game and I do not follow X-Box at all. Now it turns out PS3 has its NG Sigma which you all badmouth. It seems bit like DMC4 which didn't live up to its predecessors. I missed out God of War on PS2 and i regret it so I hope 3rd on PS3 will be just as good. So guys, should I try out PS3 NG (I don't wannna miss out another cool game) or is it a spin off which I shouldn't bother with and NG is only worth getting into if you have X-Box (I will not buy X-B!). Sigma is a remake of the first NG from Xbox, it isn't a spin-off. it's basically the same game from a previous-gen console.. if you haven't played it on Xbox, why shoudn't you try it now on yor PS3?
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ulmelinejoodik Horror Inn manager N'Somniac total posts: 4750 since: Dec 2002	May 31, 08 at 6:30pm re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	But you all say Sigma is crap compared to other games mainly because it is made by another team. I don't wanna be in a situation where someone recommends me DMC2 because it is the only one avaliable! -------------------
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Tenken Requiescat in Pace Neoholic total posts: 10030 since: Aug 2004	May 31, 08 at 7:07pm re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	I've given reasons as to why it doesn't stack up, read them and you'll understand. - Lack of unlockables, costumes were removed - The AI is cheaper(enemies that used to avoid attacking if off-screen now do attack offscreen) - Second playable character was absolute garbage - Dual Swords proved worthless as they had ridiculous room for error - Far more glitches, way more loading times Most Ninja Gaiden fans consider NGB as the definitive version. I couldn't care less if it were made by another team as long as it was good, it just didn't live up. -------------------
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ulmelinejoodik Horror Inn manager N'Somniac total posts: 4750 since: Dec 2002	Jun 01, 08 at 11:14am re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	Now that makes sense and is some uesful information. It is like DMC2. Bad apple of the series. I guess I better keep myslf busy with MGS4 and GTA4 instead and hope NG2 will some day be on PS3. Then I'll try it out. -------------------
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Zero and X You're already dead N'Somniac total posts: 4821 since: Nov 2003	Jun 01, 08 at 3:52pm re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	quote Gothic Girl quote Subzer0 DMC 1 and 3's stories were great DMC1 had a story? I must have missed it during all the awesome gameplay. XD Lmao, QFT People keep bitching about DMC4's sucky plot when the entire DMC franchise is one big shitty plot. Its not the reason why we play DMC, its the gameplay and I think DMC4 delivered that just fine, not as well as the original or DMC3 did, but it did so enough to satisfy me. ------------------- "Rock and you shall recieve"
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pyramidreaper The Game Still Seekin' since: Jul 2004	Jun 01, 08 at 8:52pm re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	it isn't shitty, it 's just a simple storyline. I thought most people didn't like playing as Nero, that's why they keep bitching?
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ulmelinejoodik Horror Inn manager N'Somniac total posts: 4750 since: Dec 2002	Jun 01, 08 at 10:20pm re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	DMC series storyline has never been deep. Greatest interest was Jester in DMC3, who kept me playing story wise, to find out who that is. So basically DMC story sucks, but that is not why we play it, as said above. DMC4 delivered gameplay was quite good. Nero should have more weapons. But the hand was seriously good idea and I can live with Nero not having any styles. Exceeding was another addition. Also Dante coud change styles mid-game to give you extra options, not like DMC3 where you had to choose one. So could be better but not bad So don't badmouth DMC4, it was little short on quantity, not quality! -------------------
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BloodyDove George Carlin R.I.P. no-stoppin-me-now total posts: 227 since: May 2008	Jun 01, 08 at 11:09pm re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	quote pyramidreaper it isn't shitty, it 's just a simple storyline. I thought most people didn't like playing as Nero, that's why they keep bitching? That's one reason. There are others as well though. These are my theories. In regards to Ninja Gaiden, I would expect a game entitled NINJA GAIDEN to contain "ninja stuff" in it. Hence the whole idea of playing a Ninja requires you to fight like a Ninja and use Weapons like a Ninja. But you want to see stylish and unpredictability in weaponry and mechanics, then Ninja Gaiden certainly has that. A LOT of Ryu's move list contains flashy and stylish fighting mechanisms. Look at Ninja Gaiden 2. Ryu does things that a normal Ninja wouldn't do or use weapons that other Ninjas would usually stay away from. DMC 4 Game play while certainly entertaining and somewhat enjoyable in it's own way was frankly disappointing compared to the first and third DMC games. And that's not exactly kosher with me Like I said before, lack of weapons, lack of combos and lack of Dante in my opinion was a Huge let down for me. It had some good potential to go further, but alas it fell short. Changing a style is good yet you need more weapons because there is only so much you can do with just a gun and sword. The reason I criticize (not really bad mouth) DMC 4 is because it was short on both quantity and quality and we were delivered the total opposite of what Kobayashi and Itsuno promised us. "Dante becomes the main character for the second half and you end with him." Lie. We didn't get Dante for the second half. If anything it was maybe a third of the game for 7 missions. Which was one of DMC 4's biggest flaw. But Not it's only flaw. "DMC 4 will feature more weapons than the previous games." Once again, this is a lie. This game didn't have more weapons than the previous games. It had LESS weapons that the last installment. In DMC 3 Dante had 5 different guns, 5 different Devil Arms, and two extra styles. As to this one he only had three guns and 3 devil arms and only 1 extra style (well Darkslayer can also be considered a weapon I guess). But I am getting off topic. Back to Ninja Gaiden Sigma. I think most people were bad mouthing it because frankly It was just Ninja Gaiden Black from the original Xbox. It didn't even feel like a remake. It was more of a report with better graphics and a new playable character. Which really isn't a lot. There weren't as many unlockables as there was in Black, a lot of the costumes were removed, Rachel's gameplay sucked beyond belief, the two swords that Ryu used proved useless and finallyit was the SAME GAME as the Xbox version. Now it was an OK game I guess for people who didn't play the others on the Xbox but Ninja Gaiden 2 after seeing a few videos of it, it's a completely different game from Sigma. -------------------
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Zero and X You're already dead N'Somniac total posts: 4821 since: Nov 2003	Jun 02, 08 at 5:25am re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	This is why previews and shit ruin games. Fable was supposed to have all this shit, I never read about it so I didnt know, I bought the game, loved and it was surprised as hell to see people bitching. I was happy with the game as it was and people were complaining becuase Peter Moneleux promised all this crap, and it didnt make the final cut. Now I never actually read preview, I just look at the screenshots, my eyes dont lie to me, words can. Still, people read shit, expect it, then get dissapointed. If developers want something in a game, it isnt always going to be in the final cut, so they need to learn to shut their bleeping mouths during production and only release information thats 100% confirmed to make the final cut, otherwise its gonna piss people off that it ends up not making it. ------------------- "Rock and you shall recieve"
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Xeros_the_Slayer Oh Sky Cake, Why Are You So Delicious? (moderator) Monster Hunter Freedom Unite [PSP] Monster Hunter Tri [Wii] total posts: 3581 since: Jun 2006	Jun 02, 08 at 9:48am re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	The thing is Peter specifically has a problem with promising many things and getting shot down by his own ambition, Lionhead has done a good job so far of keeping him more quiet about Fable 2. I loved the original for what it is, and thats all you can really do for something anyway, love it for what it is. -------------------
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pyramidreaper The Game Still Seekin' since: Jul 2004	Jun 02, 08 at 4:54pm re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.
	quote Greatest interest was Jester in DMC3, who kept me playing story wise, to find out who that is. Jester was unforgettable quote basically DMC story sucks nah, I disagree with you guys. there's a difference between a shitty story and a simple one. quote In regards to Ninja Gaiden, I would expect a game entitled NINJA GAIDEN to contain “ninja stuff” in it. Hence the whole idea of playing a Ninja requires you to fight like a Ninja and use Weapons like a Ninja. But you want to see stylish and unpredictability in weaponry and mechanics, then Ninja Gaiden certainly has that. A LOT of Ryu’s move list contains flashy and stylish fighting mechanisms. Look at Ninja Gaiden 2. Ryu does things that a normal Ninja wouldn’t do or use weapons that other Ninjas would usually stay away from. like anyone would debate all that.. NG is complete bullshit in terms of ninjas .. honestly I always wondered why on earth it was called "Ninja" Gaiden?.. and ulmeline, Sigma isn't like DMC2. it is NG1 anyway..it might be called not the best version of the xbox game, but DMC2 was a whole game, and it was a failure in almost every aspect.
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