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re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.

The term Ninja is exploited, the whole Tenchu thing isn't any more accurate.



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re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.

And in terms of stealth, Ryu is a horrible ninja, hell enemies sneak up on and jump him. Tenchu is more accurate but still not completely accurate.



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"like anyone would debate all that.. NG is complete bullshit in terms of ninjas .. honestly I always wondered why on earth it was called "Ninja" Gaiden?.."

Alright. I can see that. And I can see how the term Ninja is being exploited. However in it's defense. It does surround it's self around different aspects of ninjitsu folklore. Which ties back all the way to the original series as well as Maybe the gameplay isn't like playing as a Ninja but for the most part the game revolves around a certain clan and how "Modern" ninja's fight and what not. There are "Ninja Aspects" in the game which give it it's title. But I do agree that the whole gameplay is NOT reflecting of being a Ninja.


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re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.

So pyramidreaper, what you are saying that Sigma isn't the best version of the original game but it is not the failure DMC2 was. So in this case there is a differenece between bad version and a whole new crap game!

BTW, watched the IGN NG2 review. The game didn't live up to the hype. Straight forward levels and only action. IGN gave 8,7 out of 10 though. Looks like NG2 dissapointed a bit like DMC4 did. Score is the same.


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re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.

In terms of gameplay it;s certainly up to par if not going past the expectations of most Ninja Gaiden Fans. IGN is just one source of what people are saying. For the most part the game is getting around the 8 out of 10 area which is above average scores. Maybe not as good as the first Ninja Gaiden but still none the less garnering good reviews. Like they even stated "Easily one of the best action games on the 360"

As far as Ninja Gaiden Sigma is concerned, like I said before, it's good for those who never played the other Ninja Gaiden games, but for most part it's still Ninja Gaiden 1. No matter how you dress it up or put different easter egg bonuses in there. At least NG 2 is a different game in it's own rights rather than just another Ninja Gaiden Re-port.


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ulmeline, I was just trying to say that if you haven't played NG on xbox, but you want to, you should play Sigma. coz it's the same game, just not the best version from a die hard Itagaki followers point of view..
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Ryu does things that a normal Ninja wouldn't do
What like not being a medieval Japanese peasant who lives in the woods to avoid being killed by Samurai? No film or videogame representation of Ninja is in any way realistic.


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Ryu does things that a normal Ninja wouldn't do
What like not being a medieval Japanese peasant who lives in the woods to avoid being killed by Samurai? No film or videogame representation of Ninja is in any way realistic.
Like what was stated above me.

"Tenchu is more accurate but still not completely accurate."


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Itagaki's just announced he's quitting Tecmo anyway =/



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re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.

Well NG: Sigma is far from being a crappy game. It was meant to be played by people who never had the chance to do it on the Xbox ( like myself ) and, really, who cares about extra costumes and the laggy double-katanas? The main game was still there and I loved every bit of it. So, ulmeline don't be afraid of trying it, it's a great game and it won't remind you of DMC2 - I promise :p

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BTW, watched the IGN NG2 review. The game didn't live up to the hype. Straight forward levels and only action. IGN gave 8,7 out of 10 though. Looks like NG2 dissapointed a bit like DMC4 did. Score is the same.
Hmph, I guess this will shut some mouths now.

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Probably would have? DMC4 was a failure..Exclusive or not, it wouldn't have boosted sales.
You really think that way? I may agree with the game not being the best of the series, but, hey, it was the most successful one. Sold well, very well - which I think it's not a good sign, since Capcom will think they're in the right way =/


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re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.

"You really think that way? I may agree with the game not being the best of the series, but, hey, it was the most successful one. Sold well, very well - which I think it's not a good sign, since Capcom will think they're in the right way =/"

Well when you are right,you're right. However review wise and from the fan's perspective a lot of people weren't happy with the end product. And I'd say the same for Ninja Gaiden 2 as well. At least NG 2's game play lived up to it's expectations. If they were to fixed the camera angles and some of the glitches it would've been better. But still better than DMC 4 in my opinion. But game companies tend to listen to their fans and Capcom does usually listen to what their fans have to say. So it would be hard to ignore the fan's outcry when it comes to DMC 4


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Okay. I get the point. Because I have never touched NG game in my life Sigma is an enjoyable game for me and I cannot compare it to the old ones, so I cannot see where the let down is.

I'll buy it then later in the summer. I have too much to play (MGS4 soon and GTA4) and maybe we get news about if there is NG2 port to PS3.

Also why isn't anyone mentioning ONIMUSHA!!!!!!


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Also why isn't anyone mentioning ONIMUSHA!!!!!!
I don't know, why don't you try to ask in the Onimusha board?

Well I do think that CRAPcom *bleep*ed up the gameplay of DMC4, specially with Dante, but for some reason, I still play it and I feel addicted to it and if you asked which DMC is/was my favourite I really wouldn't know which one to choose. One of the major complaints I have now about Dante is the fact that he lacks moves and weapons. He may have more attacks on the fly than DMC3 Dante, but DMC3 Dante has more attacks as a whole. This kinda affects the longevity of the game. They could've made more 3 weapons and then Dante would be great. He could be less "heavier" as well <_<


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Jun 04, 08 at 7:58pm
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That's understandable and like I SAID. Sigma is a pretty good game for those who never played Ninja Gaiden. But to those who have played Ninja Gaiden and Ninja Gaiden Black such as my self. You can see how some of us didn't think Sigma was all too impressive.

I agree. I think the DMC 4 gameplay was a huge let down. And Dante was no exception. I mean he had all those moves in DMC 3 yet when DMC 4 came about he literally only had a tenth of what he had in the last game we played. Still had more moves than Nero. As for being heavier, I didn't really notice, he was definitely more BUFF than Nero.


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re: (Article) Itagaki talks about Ninja Gaiden II ... and how it's better than Devil May Cry 4.

LMAO Moonrise its funny you say DMC story sucked and go on to say NG storyline was better, when NG storyline isn't any better to DMC. Both those games is all about combat and fighting than the actual storyline.

Also It seems some don't understand my point, Consistent means every game you release is better than the last, which to be honest lets see the games that are better for DMC shall we:
DMC1 >>> DMC3 >>> DMC4 >>>> DMC2

Oh and lets see capcom gets DMC good every other game release, funny since that in no way is consistent, its actually inconsistent. Thus proving my point. Also DMC has a high fanbase so saying they sell well, or great, means little to nothing.

And lets see NG1 was awesome, then the next two was brilliant, which means better or consistent, and sigma doesn't count cause its not made by Itagaki. And NG2 is completely different in ways BETTER to the past ones.

So yeah they are consistent in quality top notch games.

Mega man im pretty sure wasn't good one release at next, RE games aren't good one after the next since I played those as well.

Oh and lets see SF oh yes They haven't made a great SF game in years, hell last one was probably 3 and that was around....Oh yes Playstation 1 era.
And SF4 doesn't seem to be good since, well graphics are different or 3D but we all know the last 3D street fighter turned out and new characters that are a joke. A mexican, Seth and some fatass thats supposed to be Kens rival..wow.
Although since I haven't played it yet or anyone I don't know how it will turnout but from the sounds and looks of it, not good.

So in other words Yes Capcom which is a company, hasn't been consistent making top notch quality games one right after the next one, but of course these are my opinions on the games I played.

Onimusha warlords was a shitty ass game to be honest. Everything was terrible. Controlling the character was abysmal. Now I only play a little of the other ones, so im not entirely sure how they changed, but if its anything like warlords then bringing them up is stupid.


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