If only his recovery wasn't complete nuts. I think he'd be better or even with MK

quote L'arc not logged in|message:26719808

If only his recovery wasn't complete nuts. I think he'd be better or even with MK

Agreed if he had a ZSS type up B he'd be scary.

any idea when V.4 will be out?

quote AlMoStLeGeNdArY

quote L'arc not logged in|message:26719808

If only his recovery wasn't complete nuts. I think he'd be better or even with MK

Agreed if he had a ZSS type up B he'd be scary.

Marth's up-b would make him just stupid.

quote Low Rider

any idea when V.4 will be out?

when the next system comes out?

He should have pits recovery the pikmin should turn into wings

Or make his Up B the Mach Tornado. lmao

ROB's recovery + oli's Uair

OLIMAR IS GOD TIER

Which reminds me- why does ROB basically do everything that Samus was built to do... better?

Better shield punishing, better comboing, better ridiculous recovery, better camping, better LOL FLOATY, better KO power...

seriously, wtf.

cuz rob is kewl
thats why

and whats link vs Toon Links match-up?
seriously

quote Menkoy

Which reminds me- why does ROB basically do everything that Samus was built to do... better?

ROB doesn't Zair. =[

Also, Samus's spike is pr0

TL v Link is pretty lame. Their projectiles cancel each other out, but TL will pretty much excel at everything else.

Not. Really.

It's still evenish, but I'd actually give the nod to Link. TL doesn't really... gimp very well, or well enough to the extent that other characters do gimp Link. So pretty much unless you hit him out of recovery range(which won't happen because TL has NO straight horizontal knockback moves) or if the Link makes a mistake on recovery, then Link's biggest drawback is basically nullified.

Link has tons better killing power than TL has. Oh and not to mention Link doesn't have as much trouble killing. Let's also throw in the fact that Link is pretty darn heavy and it's a hassle for TL to land pretty much most of his kill moves since Link has such a solid ground game. Those pile-on factors are what give Link the heads up in this matchup.

Link also completely outranges TL's everything. Zair is outranged, Sword is outranged, Grab(why would any of them use it, but lets throw it in anyways) is outranged.

If anything I would actually think this would be one of Link's GOOD matchups. So long as the Link doesn't get contained by TL's fast projectile output. The second the TL has control of the stage is the second this turns nightmarish for Link, since now all those plusses I just listed are somewhat nullified, and Link doesn't really have an easy 'out' button like most of TL's bad matchups[i.e. Falco(illusion or Reflector) and MK(Nado)], which is where the playing field starts evening out, because unlike some of those even matchups that get the nod up[i.e. Snake(Controls TL) or Olimar(inadvertantly shuts down Projectiles)] It's not too hard to get into this situation with TL vs. Link, because there's not much to prevent TL's control from happening, one opening is all it takes.

Oh, and no their projectiles don't cancel each other out. Link's boomerang is so damn annoying. TL's Arrows actually go somewhere. Link's bombs have more knockback iirc. But they in no way cancel each other out.

It's actually a pretty fun matchup imo. Really tests if a TL has their projectile game down packed.

This message was edited by Power of Slash on Oct 04 2009.

quote Cloud9157

TL v Link is pretty lame. Their projectiles cancel each other out, but TL will pretty much excel at everything else.

god *bleep*ing christ

insert seph's post

quote Boxxy

quote Cloud9157

TL v Link is pretty lame. Their projectiles cancel each other out, but TL will pretty much excel at everything else.

god *bleep*ing christ

insert seph's post

Shh

Smashboards has betrayed me yet again. This is probably what I deserve for not checking MUs for like, 4 months though, lol.

I'm done talking bout any characters that aren't Falco/Sheik/Oli, and maybe ROB.

Butya, that Link is balls once he is offstage. Least TL gets more distance with GS. =\

Is that really what smashboards says? <_<;

and upB's don't really matter if you aren't getting hit under the stage. Any move TL will throw at Link can be zair'd for recovery, and at worst upB'd. In a realistic situation. We could theorycraft a bunch of situations that WOULD end with Link in a gimpable position, but those are most likely not going to happen on anybody experienced enough with the matchup. For example... TL's Dsmash gimp thingy... yeah, it's not going to happen to those prepared for it, and Link's ground game >>> TL's. GL landing it.

One could also argue Tether Hogging, but I would presume the Link would throw a projectile to prevent that. Yes, Link would have enough leverage to throw a projectile because all of TL's attacks go vertical a bit except for maybe.... Nair and Ftilt.

quote Cloud9157

Shh

Smashboards has betrayed me yet again. This is probably what I deserve for not checking MUs for like, 4 months though, lol.

I'm done talking bout any characters that aren't Falco/Sheik/Oli, and maybe ROB.

Butya, that Link is balls once he is offstage. Least TL gets more distance with GS. =\

no just stop theory crafting.