MK
Snake
Diddy
IC
Marth
Wario
Falco
D3

sounds better.

Based on: MK broken, snake almost as broken, Diddy gamebreakin nanerz and always pretty gewd, ICs damn grab, Marf pretty damn good, Wario sucks but still better than Falco/d3, Falco/d3 nubs that suck when they aren't CGing.

@ Falcowned

All the characters you think should be higher suck and the ones you think should be lower are good. Does that help? Of course it doesn't.

No it actually does help, I've seen the light now.
Zelda E tier all day.

Zelda suxxxx. She has NO approach, her projectile is hard to hit someone with who has a working controller, and she has a balls recovery.

<__> Lucario bottom of B tier?

Wuut, He's the only character currently Btier or lower that averages 55:45 or better matchups... Everyone beloew him is 50:50 or lower.

quote Veggi

Zelda suxxxx. She has NO approach, her projectile is hard to hit someone with who has a working controller, and she has a balls recovery.

I'm waiting for AL to come in and try to refute this.

It's not all matchups and sunshine, my boy.

It IS all lulz however. =3

quote Veggi

It's not all matchups and sunshine, my boy.

Aren't matchups supposed to be what the tier list is based off of though?

Wait...I didn't even move Lucario to the bottom of b tier. He's like in the middle.

Edit: No, most fighting games follow that method, but with Smash it's "following the metagame" or something like that.

I'd assume Lucario above all but z00t s00t in B tier honestly.

Oh 4/6, middle then... I'm too used to Btier being 5 characters...

I personally think lucario should be at the bottom of A tier or one or two spots from the bottom of A tier... But it's your opinion i guess.

quote Steam

quote Veggi

It's not all matchups and sunshine, my boy.

Aren't matchups supposed to be what the tier list is based off of though?

No not actually, the tier list is said to be only based off of tourney results. Which is probably why Wario jumped mad spots in one list.

It's supposed to be based off of how well someone would do in a tourney using "x" character, or so I heard.

Tournament results are a part of it, but it's not the only part.

quote falcowned992

quote Steam

quote Veggi

It's not all matchups and sunshine, my boy.

Aren't matchups supposed to be what the tier list is based off of though?

No not actually, the tier list is said to be only based off of tourney results. Which is probably why Wario jumped mad spots in one list.

If it were only tourney results, The Veggi put lucario in the right spot, Azen leaving caused lucario to have garb results. But now that he's back he'll get more good finishes.