You posted this in the GD.....

quote Oogity_Boogity_Boo

This could easily mean there are like 3 or 4 spots open, since Ice Climbers & G&W are probably the characters that might be taken out if any are. So what are the rest?

And why is THAT?!

Anyway....

That, or it could be the symbols of the first 18 characters? I don't know. Doing it by series would make more sense because you'd need less numbers, so yeah, your probably right.

Hey wait Oogity, I thought DK and Mario shared the same symbol because they were considered from the same series?

gotenks didn't read the list very well.

quote orreso

with dawn of goddess the FE fanboys are going to go stark raving mad if they don't put at least one FE character in, I say roy makig the chances for sonic 40/60 as a posibility, not counting the unlockable characters *cough*mr.game and watch*cough*

Plz explan 2 me how roy mkes it prbabl taht sonix wll b put in Brwl?!?!?

(For those of you with a mental intellect of at least average, this translates to "Please explain to me how Roy makes it probable that Sonic will be put in Brawl?")


Oar if i am nut getn waht u r sayng tehn wtf du u meen by prbablty? u haf no effin wai 2 kno wtf teh prbablty iz. du u no how manie effin vido gaem caraters tehr r? du u expct me 2 beliv u cowntd tehm al nd did a shftin prbablty cmplx taht evn sakry my oar my nut evn no?!?!?!?! i tink itz mor leikly dat sakrai luks at teh chars and gos 'yahz, i'z wntz hm!!!'

(Or if I am not getting what you are saying, then what do you mean by probability? You have no way of knowing what the probability is. Do you even know how many video game characters there are? Do you expect me to believe you counted them all and did a shifting porbability complex that even Sakurai may or may not even know? I think it's more likely that Sakurai looks at the characters and goes "Yeah, he'd work!")

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Do you seriously, honestly believe that you can gauge the probability of what Sakurai thinks?

Short term, yes, you could. Soldiers with mild tactical ability do it all the time.

But they do that to oppenents in a situation where the enemy can do a very limited number of things.

Sakurai's limits are almost non-existant. You can tell me the odds of sonic getting in are 20/60, but in reality it's more like one to a number of thousands, possibly millions. He will do what he does. Don't try to gauge it.

Ah, but then why make the symbol?

They had no need to make the symbol for a stage and maybe an item.

quote Mazda

quote Weldar

This is very interesting. I'm not suire if an animal crossing character would be good for brawl but it has 2 things going for it. Firstly is the fact that there has never been a stage that hasn't had a playable character from it's sieries representing it

True but there has been times where there has been a character without stage representation, e.g melee there was no fire emblem stage but there was fire emblem characters, therefore i doubt they will put a character in just because there is a stage that represents it or vise versa. I really want to see a new DK character in the game (hopefully Diddy).

You twisted that into a way where the original statment seemed to lose it's purpose, whereas in truth, it is your statement that made no bloody sense.

Weldar wasn't talking about the fact that some characters don't have stages. He was talking about the fact that all stages had a corresponding character (except for those stages that do not belong to the universe of any character, but intead belong to Master and Crazy Hand).

This fact stands, despite your twisting of the words.


Combining the symbol and fact that every stage has a character, it seems very likely that there WILL be an Animal Crossing Character.

As for who it is, Sakurai could surprise us and say it's name is 'You', and be a human character. It could be Tom Nook's nephews. Could be Resetti. We don't know.

Yeah. The RUMOR. RUUUUMOOOOR.

*hits with giant hammer*

Guess what? Mario got replaced by Goku.

Guess what? What I just said is about as true as the 'fact' that the Ice Climbers and Mr. Game and Watch got taken out.

Whoever started that !@#$ rumor should go to jail. Why it's in the information thread, I have no idea, but it's pissing me off when people new to the forum assume it as truth when they get here.


Don't treat it as any more possible then Luigi or Jigglypuff getting taken out! Because it's not! STOP.

No, you didn't. But you are treating it as probable.

Treating it as probable means you believe it, at least somewhat.

This should not be done, as it increases the rumor. The rumor is FALSE, until proven TRUE.

Do not treat it as any more probable then any other character being taken out. Honestly, one website states an opinion as fact and it becomes an infestation that only the release of Brawl will get rid of...

That theory has a large hole... They had to make gaps in the list to make the theory fit. That kind of debunks the theory.

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11: Yosshī (Yoshi)

12: Aisu Kuraimā (Ice Climber)
13: Faiā Emuburemu (Fire Emblem)
14: Game & Watch (G&W)

15: Dōbutsu no Mori (Animal Crossing)

I mean come on. "My theory is right because I forced the list to except my theory?"

Or were those gaps already there the way they were originally found.... No. Those gaps are there because someone put them there. This theory works, but only by forcing it to work.

That's like taking a round block and shoving it through a square hole and then saying it fits.

This message was edited by Glotnot on Jul 16 2007.

quote Oogity_Boogity_Boo

Wait, I don't get what Glotnot is saying. With the gaps. Explain plz.

Also, I got my hopes up with this. Now my hopes and dreams are shattered. Way to go, Glot.

Ok. That theory claims that if you put all of the games featured in Brawl in Japanese, they are in alphabetical order. Except Yosshī (Yoshi) doesn't come before Aisu Kuraimā (Ice Climber), Faiā Emuburemu (Fire Emblem), or Game & Watch (G&W). At the saem time, those three titles don't come before Dōbutsu no Mori (Animal Crossing).

So they put those gaps in. The spaces. Those spaces treat every chunk of text as it's own alphabetical order.

In other words, the theory works.... Up to number 11. After number 11, they force it to work.

Yes. The theory works for the first 11 titles. After the eleventh title, they force it to work.

Not to mention tht the top eleven titles are speculation anyway.

Ness hasn't been confirmed, so number 7 is speculation anyway.

But Conker, it works like this. They take the titles of the games and translate them into the Japanese version. The theory is that it's in alphabetical order.

However. Number eleven is Yoshi (Yosshī ). Number 12 is the Ice Climbers (Aisu Kuraimā ). Number 12, 13, and 14 are purely speculatory... but Number 15 isn't Number 15 is Animal Crossing (Dōbutsu no Mori).

Confirmed we have Number 11, Yosshī. Now, even though the next three are unconfrimed, Number 15 IS confirmed, and D does NOT come after Y. Therefore, this theory is false. They forced it to work.

The gaps in the list are individual pieces of alphabetical order.

D through Y, A through G, and then D through S. It doesn't work.

No, bad guess!

They could make the games anything they wished and they STILL had to force it to work...

Either way, it's forcing it to work, but... Yeah, not even a good guess.

A good theory, until you try testing it.

quote NapoleonDos

I know the DS symbol might not be replacing, but if there is a character for it, I sincerely think it might be game and watch, considering he is mr handheld.

Advance Wars might get a symbol as well. However, I still firmly hold onto symbol = playable character.

Considering there is no rhyme or reason to the symbols yet, I doubt there has to be in the future.

There is rhyme and reason.

And I believe Advance Wars will get the DS Symbol while Mr. Game and Watch keeps his, as it makes aboslutely no sense for him to have the DS Symbol, as was argued in the PC thread.

I don't know. Made sense to me.

Given that the Nintendo Wars series has always been named after the console that the particular game was on.

Famicom Wars, Gameboy Wars, Super Famicom Wars, Advance Wars.

That's the only reason I'd tie Advance Wars to the DS symbol.

But some Advance Wars games were on the DS (I don't know why they never changed the name, although you might count Advance Wars: Dual Strike).

And to make this not sound like Napoleon's argument, there is a difference between any other game and Advance Wars. Advance Wars has, in the past, changed it's name depending on the title of the system it was on. They didn't for the DS but it still seems relevant considering it has for all of it's past renditions. The closes it has come to changing it's name for the DS was Advance Wars: Dual Strike, which I count. >.>