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Jun 23, 08 at 8:55pm
re: Final Fantasy Versus XIII ISN'T " On-Hold " untill FFXIII is done !

You can also add a possible new Shin Megami Tensei as a PS3 exclusive too. It's a major RPG franchise and one the PS3 should absolutely try to keep.



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Jun 23, 08 at 9:02pm
re: VersusXIII not on Hold for FFXIII // General On-topic Discussion.

I was just thinking that too

Persona 4 is coming out for the PS2 next month, I think, so it can't be long before they start thinking of developing a game for a next gen console and I don't see why they wouldn't choose to stay with Sony ?

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EDIT : Just found this. I'll add it to the list =DD


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re: VersusXIII not on Hold for FFXIII // General On-topic Discussion.

I had already found this when I made the other post, otherwise I wouldn't tell you to add to the list.

So, about now we have a pretty nice list of upcoming RPG's for the PS3. If all goes this way I think the PS3 can beat the 360 easily on that game genre.


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re: Final Fantasy Versus XIII ISN'T " On-Hold " untill FFXIII is done !

Well



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re: Final Fantasy Versus XIII ISN'T " On-Hold " untill FFXIII is done !

quote gonzab
I had already found this when I made the other post, otherwise I wouldn't tell you to add to the list.

So, about now we have a pretty nice list of upcoming RPG's for the PS3. If all goes this way I think the PS3 can beat the 360 easily on that game genre.

It pretty much already has. The ones currently out on 360 and soon coming are pretty half-assed in my opinion.
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Jun 24, 08 at 5:33am
re: Final Fantasy Versus XIII ISN'T " On-Hold " untill FFXIII is done !

I'd love to hear of even 20 legitimate 360 exclusive RPGs.



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Jun 24, 08 at 7:03am
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quote Moonrise
I'd love to hear of even 20 legitimate 360 exclusive RPGs.
Why certainly. (mind you, this is counting the ones that suck) ...

Lost Odyssey
Operation Darkness
Blue Dragon
Blue Dragon 2
Fable 2
Spectral Force 3
Star Ocean 4
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
Infinite Undiscovery
Tales of Vesperia
Zoids Assault
Last Remnant
Age of Conan
Apocalypse: Desire Next
Champions Online
Defense Grid: The Awakening
Dungeon Hero
Final Fantasy XI
Two Worlds: The Temptation
Phantasy Star Universe
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
Too Human

There are probably more. And that's not including Mass Effect (which is going multiplat) and the two sequels that have been confirmed for 360.

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Rule 3. - Games that status aren't fully confirmed are highlighted in red.
How is Star Ocean 4 and Tales of Vesperia not "fully confirmed" yet? Squeenix have already released a trailer and a bunch of screenshots for Star Ocean 4. I'd say that's confirmation enough.
Same goes for Tales of Vesperia. It has plot info, gameplay info, character info, screenshots and release dates. And has been confirmed for 360.

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I still say the 360 is doing lot better when it comes to JRPGs (and RPGs in general). But I guess we'll have to wait and see whether the upcoming 360 RPGs end up being any good, especially the new series. (Though they'll have a hard time competing against the Final Fantasy games since every reviewer gives off their little 10/10 wank at how perfect ever FF game is >_>).
I'm so *meh* about Final Fantasy games lately, I'll be THRILLED if another upcoming game ends up being better. Give other companies a go, and we might finally see some new things in JRPGs.


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Jun 24, 08 at 9:10am
re: Final Fantasy Versus XIII ISN'T " On-Hold " untill FFXIII is done !

Why are you guys counting how many games each console has?
I thought it was quality over quantity, no?

On another note, I don't remember any company as sucessfull as SE on the RPG market, mind you.
Just because their last titles weren't masterpieces doesn't mean they're all shit, imo.

I still have hope. Besides, MGS4 > Xbox 360's games.


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Jun 24, 08 at 10:01am
re: Final Fantasy Versus XIII ISN'T " On-Hold " untill FFXIII is done !

By "Legitimate", I meant "quality", GG.

Also, since when does FFXI count? That was a PS2 game.


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Jun 24, 08 at 10:56am
re: Final Fantasy Versus XIII ISN'T " On-Hold " untill FFXIII is done !

And Last Remnant is only a timed exclusive last time I checked? lol.



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Jun 24, 08 at 11:20am
re: VersusXIII not on Hold for FFXIII // General On-topic Discussion.

quote Gothic Girl
How is Star Ocean 4 and Tales of Vesperia not "fully confirmed" yet? Squeenix have already released a trailer and a bunch of screenshots for Star Ocean 4. I'd say that's confirmation enough.
Same goes for Tales of Vesperia. It has plot info, gameplay info, character info, screenshots and release dates. And has been confirmed for 360.
Sorry ! Should have read console status, as there's still a possibility that both will come out for the PS3.

quote Gothic Girl
I'm so *meh* about Final Fantasy games lately, I'll be THRILLED if another upcoming game ends up being better.
No Final Fantasy Tactics A2 love ?

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That is a big list, but a lot of those games have been shit. However that's not to say that all of the PS3s RPGs are going to be masterpieces, I just had to say it =}

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... And on the note of 360 RPGs and Operation Darkness, I bid you read IGNs review :


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2.0 Presentation
A perfect example of how to turn a fun idea into pure tedium.

1.0 Graphics
The game technically does have graphics.

3.5 Sound
Terrible voice acting, but at least most dialogue is voiced.

3.0 Gameplay
How did they manage to mess up a camera in a turn-based strategy game?

3.0 Lasting Appeal
If you can find any joy in this mess, then you'll find many hours of deluded fun.

2.5 Terrible OVERALL
Again, that's not meant as a jibe at any console exclusives, blahblahblahblah, I just wanted to bring it up since that's the lowest score I've seen from IGN in awhile.

I suppose they have to balance out the two 10s they gave MGS4 and GTA:IV.


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Jun 24, 08 at 12:29pm
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Lost Odyssey
Blue Dragon
Blue Dragon 2
meh
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Fable 2
uhhhhhhhhhh

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Star Ocean 4
I bet this 'll be multiplatform



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Age of Conan


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Final Fantasy XI

that's a PS2 game

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Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
omg

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Jun 24, 08 at 1:45pm
re: Final Fantasy Versus XIII ISN'T " On-Hold " untill FFXIII is done !

quote pyramidreaper
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Fable 2
I confess I didn't quite catch that argument. xD

For me Fable is one of the main RPG's on the 360, if not the most important. It's an amazing series.


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Jun 24, 08 at 2:35pm
re: VersusXIII not on Hold for FFXIII // General On-topic Discussion.

quote Moonrise
By "Legitimate", I meant "quality", GG.
Oh ... well there's alot less of them, then.
Mind you, my original list had the "bigger" and "more popular" 360 JRPGs.

quote Moonrise
Also, since when does FFXI count? That was a PS2 game.
I have no idea, tbh. But it's being listed as a 360 exclusive on a fair few sites now. Unless the PS2/PC version isn't the full thing? Or the expansions only work with the 360 version?



quote pyramidreaper
meh
I could pretty much guarantee that reviewers would be wanking over Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon if they had "Final Fantasy" on the box. Lost Odyssey is more Final Fantasy than the recent Final Fantasy games have been, yet it ended up getting average review scores because of it's "outdated" battle system. Funny, FFXII's battle system was equally outdated yet reviewers harped on about how "fantastic" and "innovative" it was. Biased pricks. >_>

I'll be willing to bet that Squeenix's Star Ocean and Infinite Undiscovery won't go multiplat, simply so they can get a leg-up in the 360 JRPGs. At the moment, Sakaguchi's RPGs are the best selling 360 games in Japan, and Squeenix probably wouldn't be too happy about their ex-main man doing so well and getting so much praise, while their own games are on a steady decline.


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Jun 24, 08 at 3:24pm
re: VersusXIII not on Hold for FFXIII // General On-topic Discussion.

On the FFXI side of things, a lot of 360 fans count it as an exclusive due to the fact that it doesn't appear on any next gen. console other than the 360. Much like Mass Effect at the moment. Its a Microsoft exclusive, not a 360 exclusive, but it is still classed as one.

Admittedly, Lost Odyssey was a good game and I can't wait to have a glimpse at Cry-On ( Sakaguchi' next game, which will be an Action-RPG ) but I still can't get away with Blue Dragons style. Plainly put, I think it looks *bleep* ugly =D

The thing with Mistwalker' RPGs is that Sakaguchi and his team create the characters, scenarios and plotlines, but the development is outsourced to companies set up my Microsoft for that sole purpose, which has lead to all of the bugs etcetcetc that you've probably heard about.


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