Hi. I said "final battle" because I'm not sure if it's actually the final battle cause I haven't finished the game yet...so no spoilers please Anyway so I went through the cutscene where I tell Richard, after the 8 assassinations, about Robert's betrayal. Then the fight against the 12 templars starts. Remember what one? You start off encircled by them. Okay now here comes the problem.

SOMEHOW, in this battle, if I do a counter (you know, with the little cutscene zooming thing) it's not deflect+kill, but deflect+KICK. WHY?? So annoying! In other fights I counter for a quick kill, but here my Altair just kicks them, making them fall to the ground. Okay, this wouldn't be so bad if I could simply kill the guy while he's on the ground, but somehow in this battle I automatically start fighting someone else of the group after I kicked someone to the ground! IRRITATING. So yeah I'm kinda stuck in this fight and it's really getting me frustrated

Also I hate that as soon as I fight with a guy, another templar hits me in the back. Can I do something against this? Also, it's really frustrating they made it so that there's little moving space in this fight. If you run a few metres you're already against a black wall! Okay I know this is because it's a hard fight, but the makers FORGOT to make my enemy also not able to go behind it, and it's really frustrating if the guy I'm fighting is behind the black wall and I'm forced to stop fighting him and turn to other Templars. Okay and LAST frustrating thing is that in this fight, if I'm moving to much too the edges of the fight my view get's behind these two flags and I can't see my Altair anymore...BAH!

Please help AC is quite easy it's first time I got stuck so pls help if u can

bai

The reason the counters don't kill is because they're strong enemies. You will kill them eventually but you'll need to do a few counters to finish them.

You can also direct where your attack is with the analog stick, even if your aim shifts elsewhere just shift it back to the downed man.

To be honest, if you find it that hard just get your longsword out and hold the block button. Just wait for them to attack you then counter and keep reducing their health till the counters actually kill people.

That's a safe and easy way to do it, my favourite way is to run around with the short blades slashing everyone and quickly countering if people attack from behind, coupled with a few thrown knives to the enemies outside the pack. It looks damn cool

Oh and that reminds me, another tip, when an enemy has been kicked down point the stick towards them and throw a knife at them to finish them, if you're finding it too hard to stab people on the floor yourself.

That safe way you're talking about...but is it possible to block attacks coming from behind you? don't know how to pull that off. I'm on PC btw

edit: OKAY, that was it man...I FINALLY got to killing ALL the *bleep*ing templars, Robert the Sable comes, it says 'reinistilizing' (or whatever the word is). so I think FINALLY IT WILL SAVE and I will be able to relaxly kill Robert, but NO, I died and I have to do all the templars again!! whattecrap? Me with 2 hp versus Robert de Sable? How?? And he seems to damage through blocks..You know I'm really getting tired of it now -.-

Can someone also explain how to kill someone with hidden blade after I kicked him to ground? tyvm

This message was edited by belgiangeneral on Jul 31 2008.

This message was edited by belgiangeneral on Jul 31 2008.

You just attack them with the hidden blade when they're on the floor.

The key thing with fights like this is timing. You should never actually need to block an attack. You should counter every single hit that comes your way because people can't attack you while you're doing a counter move. In that sense, countering is the most effective block possible.

Just wait, don't attack, counter every blow that comes against you and do nothing more. In that way you can take out hundreds of guards with little or no damage.

First off I just want to plead with all of you to please forgive me for necroing this thread.

I have had the same problem with this battle. It has gotten me so damn mad at times I have ended up breaking things (remote, one controler, communications cable got stripped.....what? Ok so I got anger issues....).

Anyhow. I am a big fan of the counter strike. I have tried the various weapons to see which one I have the best luck with. I have also failed miserably. I seem to do best with the long blade.

My problem lies with how I just have the hardest time countering. I know its not my timing. I learned how to counter as soon as I got the ability. It seems like each time I should be countering them, the Templar does a sweeping move with his blade that knocks mine far to the side, leaving me vulnerable to attack.

I need advice! Should I be dodging more? Should I be leaving the lock target off? (I always have used lock on target.) What in gods name am I doing wrong???

edit: typos suck

This message was edited by Leut on Mar 30 2009.

quote Existence

COUNTER STRIKE is the most useful tool in the game.

My strategy for beating this fight was to stay in the middle, making sure they don't gang up on me, then hitting one to make them counter it, then countering their counter.

This works very well, actually. I beat the fight on my first try using this.

ok i just cloked the game litrally 2day and first use the dagger that helped me out a bit and sometimes you can chuck knives and kill templars like that easy another thing if your running low on health just sprint in circles! they rarely hit you and you can recover health another tip if they break your guard just step into them and you can get a few hits easy

quote Leut

First off I just want to plead with all of you to please forgive me for necroing this thread.

I have had the same problem with this battle. It has gotten me so damn mad at times I have ended up breaking things (remote, one controler, communications cable got stripped.....what? Ok so I got anger issues....).

Anyhow. I am a big fan of the counter strike. I have tried the various weapons to see which one I have the best luck with. I have also failed miserably. I seem to do best with the long blade.

My problem lies with how I just have the hardest time countering. I know its not my timing. I learned how to counter as soon as I got the ability. It seems like each time I should be countering them, the Templar does a sweeping move with his blade that knocks mine far to the side, leaving me vulnerable to attack.

I need advice! Should I be dodging more? Should I be leaving the lock target off? (I always have used lock on target.) What in gods name am I doing wrong???

edit: typos suck

This message was edited by Leut on Mar 30 2009.

it is fustrating but my awnsers below so reaed it i accidently quoted some else but that my tips

Once a person masters the counter-attack in this game, they can walk around like a god... oh, you were thinking I meant *just* in Assassin's Creed!?!?