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ChiroVette(babysitter)
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No I haven't completely lost it. I have actually always been curious about the mission/Activities GPS system leading you places in this game. Does anyone know if they are feet or meters? I wanted to get an idea of how large the actual city is.
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Not sure, but in all the time Ive played this game, it seems to take forever to get the swing 200 miles achievement.
Ive done a ton of races, and completed all of the missions up to MJ Scare ride and it says Ive only swung 51 miles. Im not seeing how. | |
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ChiroVette(babysitter)
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Sounds like your game is glitched. I mean each race alone has to be about a mile or more. Add to that all the exploring, plus a ton of swinging around for missions and clearly you have to have more than that. By the way, is there a stats section in the pause map? Because I know that previous Spidey games have it, and I would like to see what the game tells me my swing miles are. I don't see it in the pause menu, though.
Edit: Okay, forget about it. I just found in my stats that I have swung 800 miles. Honestly, I thought I swung a lot more than that. This message was edited by ChiroVette on Jul 22 2009. ------------------- ![]() It's official. I have truly become a babysitter on Neo. Redemption, I want my $7.00 an hour! | |
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The Stinger
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It may be glitched. I periodicly check after a few blocks and the meter keeps moving so its not stuck on just the one number. Its taking forever to get to 200.
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ChiroVette(babysitter)
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You may want to try a "timing" experiment to see if your game is now keeping proper track of your webslinging. I would websling from the southern end of the city to the northern and check your stats both before and after you finish to make sure that your game tabulates several miles. While the real New York City from Battery Park to Harlem or Morningside Heights just below the Bronx is approximately between 8 and 11 miles south-north (depending upon whether you are going up the east or west side) I estimate that this is only 4 miles from Battery Park to The Bronx.
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ChiroVette(babysitter)
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Stinger, I thought this was worth a double post. After getting my 100% completion and re-reading this thread I decided to make a few calculations. In my above post, I guestimated the city to be about 4 miles from the northern tip to the southern tip, water's edge to water's edge. The way I did this was counting the blocks. In a big city with a grid-like street structure like Manhattan and the outer boroughs, the common rule of thumb is that 20 small blocks equal one mile, and one long block equals about 4 small blocks, which means 5 long blocks is approximately one miles. In Manhattan, the long blocks run east-west, and avenue to avenue, while the small blocks run north-south, street to street. So to go from 57th street (the southern end of Central Park) to 47th street is ten small blocks, about a half mile, and to go from say 5th Avenue to 7th Avenue is two long blocks east to west, or about .4 miles.
Anyway, I brought up my pause map while standing in Harlem north of the George Washington bridge. I chose the western part of the area simply because it is the furthest northern tip of the island as well as because it lines up almost directly with the southern tip of Battery Park City. Anyway, I dropped a marker on race # 48 since it is located several hundred meters from the southern tip the island. Oh, and there is NO DOUBT, by the way, that the GPS measurement given HAS TO BE meters. Feet would NOT make any sense since it would mean that the city was LESS THAN 2 miles north-south! Okay, so I wanted an exact measurement, so I noticed that standing right on the water's edge it was 6,704 meters to the race, according to the GPS, so I wrote that number down. Then I took a tape measure and, in the pause map, measured the distance in inches from the race in Battery Park City to the southern tip of the island. It was just about 3 inches even. So I then put the tape measure on Spidey's location on the northern tip and measured 3 inches to see exactly where on the map that would put me. Once I saw it was on the roof of one of the factory buildings I took a swing or two there, checking the pause map to make sure I was in the exact place. That was three inches, and, as it turns out that swinging that three inches on the map took almost exactly 200 meters off the GPS measurement on my screen, going from 6,704 to just about 6,504. So I then added the 200 meters to the 6,704 meters to get 6,904 meters as the total distance from the northern to the southern tips of Manhattan. Then I converted that number to feet, which equals 22650.918 feet and divided that by 5,280, which is the amount of feet in a mile. That gave me 4.2899. lol So my original estimate of about 4 miles turns out to be damned close! Hehehehe. So that means to go from the southern tip of the island to the northern tip should be just over 4 miles. So webslinging this distance should theoretically add approximately 4 miles to your total miles swung. I say approximately because I am not sure how the game deals with the physics of webslinging. Meaning that if you are swinging in a large arc, that means your vertical and any horizontal motions should actually add more distance since you are not going in a "straight line," but are increasing the distance swinging by whatever deviations up-down and left-right motions, no matter how infinitesimal they may seem. Also, whenever you let go of your web line, say jumping off the web before picking up another one, does the game stop counting for that instant, or does it still count that as webslinging? Since there is the potential to go either way, I decided to websling in as absolutely straight a line as possible from the northern tip of Harlem to the southern tip of Battery Park. I tried NOT to jump off of any webs and to swing as straight as possible with as little arc as I possibly could. I also ONLY jumped when I absolutely had to and tried to keep my height as consistent as possible in a straight line, even though I had to gain height at some points to get over some higher buildings, and once in a while steer onto a different street. I also only web-zipped when I absolutely had to, not being sure if this game counts zipping as swinging or not. So I went into my pause screen before starting and it said I had swung 851.9 miles, so I noted this number. When reaching the southern tip (thankfully there are trees to swing from on the grass leading to the southern tip!) I again checked my pause map, which said 854.5 miles. So something is amiss with the way this game keeps track of your webslinging. Because my Locomotion Details should now have a Swinging stat of 856.2 miles, not 854.5. Even if the game took away a small amount for the few times I had to execute a jump, I should still be pretty close to 856.2 miles, not a full 1.7 miles less! Try this experiment yourself to see precisely how much YOUR GAME is cheating you out of miles swung. Go from point to point and see how many miles the game adds to your stat and you will know by approximately how much your game is off. Incidentally, I tried this experiment like ten times, and in each instance, the numbers were VERY close, plus or minus about .2 miles. So I can conclude that, while the way the game measures webslinging is a little glitched, at least it is consistent! ------------------- ![]() It's official. I have truly become a babysitter on Neo. Redemption, I want my $7.00 an hour! | |
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The Stinger
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I think my problem is that the game is calculating my distance when Im still attached to the web. This is bad for me because I cover my distance quickly by boosting at the bottom and jumping, covering a lot of ground.
If I seriously have to be attached to the webline for the numbers to go up, its gonna be a long time, if ever, before I unlock that achievement. | |
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ChiroVette(babysitter)
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I am not quite understanding what you are saying. When you are attached to a web you are webslinging, so I am guessing my interpretation of your post is wrong.
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The Stinger
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Im saying that the mileage is only going up when IM HOLDING the web.
That sucks for me, because my webline I only have for HALF a swing. Fire, swing almost to bottom, boost, release and cover huge amounts of distance. So if it takes me 2 swings to equal 1 swing (because im only holding the web for half the swing) then its going to take forever for those numbers to increase. When I fire the web im at one number. Say 51 miles swung. When I release the web, it has slightly gone up in number. At the end of my momentum that the webline has hurled me on, I check the number again before firing the next web. No improvement in number. The ground Im covering after releasing the web isnt being counted as "webslinging", even though I wouldnt be covering that distance had I not been swinging from a web to begin with. Very dumb. | |
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ChiroVette(babysitter)
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Ah I see what you mean now. Well why not try the little experiment I outlined above. Go to the northern tip of Harlem and websling to the southern tip of Battery Park. Before doing this write down what your Swinging mileage is and then look at it after you complete the journey. Since I figured out that the total ACTUAL distanhce is roughly 4.3 miles, then you can see what you are getting versus what you should be getting in terms of raw distance. See what I mean?
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