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venom It's better to burn out than fade away Legendary Seeker since: Aug 2003	Mar 13, 07 at 7:18pm Is Vic Vance really dead?
	I heard in the opening scene of Vice City, Vic Vance dies in the police raid as drugs are being dealt. I was interested and so I dusted off Vice City and stuck it in the PS2, watched the opening scene, but didn't see Vic. Anywhere. I am assuming that Vic was the guy who had the briefcase and told Tommy that he had a deal, and if that was Vic, then; A. It looked NOTHING like him B. Even if it was him, why did he look so old? There were only 2 years between Vice City and Vice City stories, and finally; C. Why was his voice different in the two versions of the game? I am curious now, can someone clear this up? Sadly I can't find a picture of GTA Vice City 1's version of Vic. This message was edited by Zero Tolerance on Mar 14 2007. ------------------- Gone
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Bulcky neologist total posts: 410 since: Feb 2005	Mar 13, 07 at 7:42pm re: Is Vic Vance really dead?
	Some people say it is Peter Vance that dies ------------------- Full credit goes to Catfire!
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trendyskaman Good grief. Neo: Essential since: Aug 2002	Mar 13, 07 at 7:51pm re: Is Vic Vance really dead?
	From wikipedia: quote Victor Vance Introduced/Killed in: Introduction, botched drug deal cut scene Victor Vance is Lance Vance's elder brother and head of the two-member Vance crime family (alongside Lance), who is killed in the beginning of the game, along with Vercetti's escorts Harry and Lee, as he engages in a drug transaction with Vercetti. Unusually, despite assuming an African-American appearance like Lance, Victor speaks in an Latin accent (Victor speaks in a more Afican-American accent in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories). This is related to a retcon from Vice City Stories that suggests the Vance brother's father was from the Dominican Republic, while the brothers spend most of their time there following their experiences in Vice City Stories. Vic Vance picture from GTA:VC ------------------- quote Overheard in Loungin' The reason it's controversial is because the nation was founded based on Christianity. Just sayin' Deists: Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, James Madison, John Adams...the bad history bug strikes again!
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venom It's better to burn out than fade away Legendary Seeker since: Aug 2003	Mar 13, 07 at 8:28pm re: Is Vic Vance really dead?
	Interesting how they look so different. In Vice City (the original) Vic has hair and a 'tash and looks older but in VCS he is bald and fresh faced, even though there is so little time period before the two character models. ------------------- Gone
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ulitmate taz mtb's #1 Fan! Resident Neo total posts: 2825 neopoints: 177 since: Jul 2004	Mar 13, 07 at 8:36pm re: Is Vic Vance really dead?
	quote Zero Tolerance B. Even if it was him, why did he look so old? Thre were only 4 years between Vice City and Vice City stories.. Actually it's only 2 years, since Vice City Stories is set in 84 and Vice City is set in 86 Anyway, since we don't know what Pete Vance looks like, we can only guess who dies in Vice City (hopefully R* will tell us in IV). ------------------- The Complete 29 Games Before GTA IV Is Released Challenge 18 of 29 Games Complete
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venom It's better to burn out than fade away Legendary Seeker since: Aug 2003	Mar 13, 07 at 8:41pm re: Is Vic Vance really dead?
	I doubt that is Vic Vance in the picture, I mean did Lance ever mention Vics name in the story missions of VC1? ------------------- Gone
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Chimaira Resident Neo total posts: 3045 since: Nov 2006	Mar 13, 07 at 8:42pm re: Is Vic Vance really dead?
	quote Zero Tolerance Interesting how they look so different. In Vice City (the original) Vic has hair and a 'tash and looks older but in VCS he is bald and fresh faced, even though there is so little time period before the two character models. Since when did it take 2 years to grow a mustache? IMO they don't look that different
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venom It's better to burn out than fade away Legendary Seeker since: Aug 2003	Mar 13, 07 at 8:43pm re: Is Vic Vance really dead?
	Okay, but what about the completely different accent when he speaks? ------------------- Gone
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Chimaira Resident Neo total posts: 3045 since: Nov 2006	Mar 13, 07 at 8:48pm re: Is Vic Vance really dead?
	Haven't played the game yet so I don't know. But it's only a game man don't look so deeply into it.
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venom It's better to burn out than fade away Legendary Seeker since: Aug 2003	Mar 13, 07 at 8:53pm re: Is Vic Vance really dead?
	Meh I just find GTA history fascinating and I like it when all the pieces of the puzzle have been put together. ------------------- Gone
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BigBhaarlokzMon PSN = BBMv12 Neo or Bust total posts: 7131 since: Aug 2003	Mar 13, 07 at 9:27pm re: Is Vic Vance really dead?
	I find it a bit weird that Rockstar would have Vic Vance as the guy you play as in GTA: VCS when, if you look at the opening cutscene (which I didn't the first time round), Vic dies and we already know that when playing VCS... something like that. It'd be like playing as CJ's dad in San Andreas Stories (are R* making that?) because CJ's dad is dead at the start of the original SA. -------------------
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Bulcky neologist total posts: 410 since: Feb 2005	Mar 13, 07 at 9:33pm re: Is Vic Vance really dead?
	IMO the Vic Vance from vice city('86) and the one from vice city stories('84) look too different, Lance doesn't even mention him in Vice city. In Liberty City Stories there was almost no difference between the toni Cipriani from LCS and the one from GTAIII. ------------------- Full credit goes to Catfire!
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trendyskaman Good grief. Neo: Essential since: Aug 2002	Mar 14, 07 at 12:48am re: Is Vic Vance really dead?
	quote Zero Tolerance Okay, but what about the completely different accent when he speaks? quote My Original Post from Wikipedia Unusually, despite assuming an African-American appearance like Lance, Victor speaks in an Latin accent (Victor speaks in a more Afican-American accent in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories). This is related to a retcon from Vice City Stories that suggests the Vance brother's father was from the Dominican Republic, while the brothers spend most of their time there following their experiences in Vice City Stories. ------------------- quote Overheard in Loungin' The reason it's controversial is because the nation was founded based on Christianity. Just sayin' Deists: Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, James Madison, John Adams...the bad history bug strikes again!
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v town Compton city G not-such-a-newbie total posts: 49 since: Sep 2006	Mar 14, 07 at 1:31am re: Is Vic Vance really dead?
	that is vic because if you listen to rosenberg at the airport where he picks up tommy he says there are two brothers. ------------------- Eazy-Duz-It
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v town Compton city G not-such-a-newbie total posts: 49 since: Sep 2006	Mar 14, 07 at 1:34am re: Is Vic Vance really dead?
	and in another mission tommy is talking to lance and lance says"they killed my brother what do you expect me to do moa there loan" ------------------- Eazy-Duz-It
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