I always wanted to know if you use this technique method glitching the game to get Mew is that considered cheating? I know that Gamesharks are cheating devices, but are Glitches considered cheating as well?

I'd consider them cheating, yes. Cheating in my opinion is anything that alters from how the game is originally supposed to be played. Glitches aren't really supposed to happen and therefore they are cheating.

yup!! the mew glitch is a cheat but, i consider it the safest cheat cause it doesnt damage your game!!!
so just keep on going ang get your self as many mews you can!!!!

I wouldn't count it as a cheat...But Nintendo would.

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I wouldn't count it as a cheat...But Nintendo would.

In order to get mew he/she has to be in the programing to...get him/her and the glitch just allows you to get mew without going to the Pokemon center in New York(I think thats right,and if they still do it)If they didnt program Mew into the game that glitch would most likly just be asind to another pokemon...or freeze...I DONT KNOW!

So mew is in the game programing and so when you use the glitch it may make a wild mew apear but they put him/her in the game therefor they MENT for you to get mew if you went to the right place.But you guys have a point that they didnt want you to get Mew like that.Therefor you have every right to say its a cheat...But for the reasons I said above I don't...Case closed!

This message was edited by Coltenator on Mar 28 2007.

Glitches= Hardcoded accidently or purposely into the game, not cheating

Adons like AP and GameShark- Changing the game from the original design = cheating

UNLESS

it is being used to find out something ike hex values for the glitches not using the addon

so you say that it is an accident or supposed.

supposed means should have been.

so if it was supposed to be there but is not really put there officialy, it is not right!!

It should have been but not successfully put there because they have changed their minds!!! they want it there before, but they changed their minds because they agreed that it should not be there!!

umm.. ???????

OK, what i mean was that all the Pokémon that were coded into the game were coded into all 3 games, no matter what, so that a player could get them all by one means or another (most likely trading). What happens when the mew glitch is used is the person walks toward the trainer (like the gambler) and the gambler has to turn around to face you because all things are coded to look down (or south, your preference) when they spawn in, like when you open up a save file, you always face down. The Gambler and all things that work like him all face down when they come into the game when the player steps on the route. OK? When the person hits start fast enough that the person *does* turn around, the menu is already up. Now when the person flies away, a battle is still commencing, just on the route though, and finishing another battle, with another trainer or the elite four, allows the player to access the menu again (same thing with using the PC to save and turning off and back on.). Then the player then flies back to the route after a battle and go onto the route. The menu pops up because that is how the game registered the setup of the player before the battle on the gambler's road. Upon exiting the menu, a battle should commence. The battle is not against the gambler because the special of the last Pokémon has overwritten the original battle, and since the gambler's hex value for a battle is like 200 something, the battle commences like a wild (or trainer) battle would.

And the Missingno. Glitch is justified for this reason- when the programmers put in all the areas, for the little area on Cinnabar and Sea Foam Islands, the land that is 1/2 water/land there was nothing coded in for the Pokémon. This means that to player can than use the Pokémon that he or she just used on the last route he or she played on to be capture. The Missingno part is that the computer changes the player's name to "OLD MAN". Now what happens is the game then doesn't have any Pokémon to put into the 1/2 land portion, so they use the information given and some of it contains the information like if the character’s name is something, and every letter means one thing or another. The name ten dictates what Pokémon are to be found on the 1/2 land portion, and a normal battle occurs so that the player is knowing they are in a fight and then because there is only the information of the name, uses hex values again to make a Pokémon that would normally not be able to show up, since there is no Pokémon hard coded into the place, and the Pokémon shows up.

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It should have been but not successfully put there because they have changed their minds!!! they want it there before, but they changed their minds because they agreed that it should not be there!!

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Long enough for you? I don't lose debates...

A) I am trying to prove my point and why I consider glitches not cheats
B) A glitch is, by definition: glitch –noun 1. a defect or malfunction in a machine or plan. (dictionary.com)
C) How long did it take to you to respond? Looks like over a month...

sorry for the ate reply cause i'm having a review class for college entrance test MISTER player300o!

you mentioned earlier that: A glitch is, by definition: glitch –noun 1. a defect or malfunction in a machine or plan. (dictionary.com)

a defect! so you are benefiting from defects or malfunctions...------benefiting from glitches are cheating cause you are using something out of the normal game...

that is something out of the normal game play.....
your making it abnormal....

it was already there, so it is not cheating. Using a device allows you to change how the game works is cheating. Hacking teh specific values is cheating. Using a slight problem that was not resolved until after shipping of the game is not cheating. the programmers actually made it so tht everybody faced down so that it would be easier on the sprite sheet. Now explain to me how glitches = cheating if they are a malfunction? It would just be cheat explotation, and I can expliot the arena in Fire Emblem (GBA), but that's not a cheat, is it?

Well yah!!! you are cheating cause you are taking advantage in the game by using your "MALFUNCTIONS".---or whatever you call it...

I may do the glitch (it is reffered to as a glitch and not a cheat) because i want 151 pokemon in my pokedex. If you were to do the glitch and then subsequently have a mew in your party and.... you battled your friends with it and won, or beat the game (elite 4) by using a mew then i would call it cheating. The title of this thread is 'if you use it to your advantage' if you do then i consider it cheating. if you use it for pokedex complation i would call it perfectonism.

Although Player 300o makes the point that it is 'in the game' which i fully understand, the game developers only put it there as they intended to give it out to people who went to their events..(i think was like....a movie tie-in thing when they did it)