Yea I Know What Your Getting At But There Are Just So Many Variables To Take Into Account Though. For Now We Just Have To Use The Simplest Scenario When It Comes To These Types Of Plans. What I'm Saying Is That We Don't Know How Many Men Would Be Where At What Time And What They Are Thinking About. We Don't Know How Long It Would Take To Do Something To Someone Else Or How Much Of Something It Would It Take To Do Something Else. Bottom Line Is This Operation Would Take Weeks If Not Months Of Tactical And Strategical Planning Which Would Also Require Perfect Timing (I.E. Capturing A Lambda Class Shuttle With A Fairly Flexible Time Schedule That Is Also Not Carrying Any Storm Troopers And Then Making Our Decoy Space Assault Only When We Are Ready)As Well As Many Detailed Intelligence Reports Of Imperial Military Activity, Security Deployment, And Technical Specifications Of The Main Reactor (I.E. What Type Of Explosives Could You Use, How Much Of That Explosive Would It Take To Make That Big Of An Explosion. And How Big Of An Explosion Would It Take To Create An Unstoppable Chain Reaction) All Of This From Within The Death Star Itself Which Would Require Espionage. Now Remember We're Just Three Guys So Lets Just Keep It Simple For Now. Heres The Idea...We Have Captured A Lambda Class Shuttle. We Have Converted The Crew. We Have Created The Bomb. We Have Assembled The Jedi Or Sith Strike Team. We Depart. We Land. We Infiltrate. We Plant The Bomb. We Escape. That Is The Down To The Nitty Gritty, Bare-Boned, Lack-Luster Plan And Its As Simple As Its Gonna Get. Now Imagine That The Months Of Training Are Done. The Intelligence Reports Are In. All The Variables Have Been Taken Into Account. Our Strategies And Tactics Are Perfected. Our Strike Team Is Assembled. The Shuttle Is Prepared. Our Fleets Are Ready.

With All That Said I'm Sure If We All Sat Down For Many Months And Put All Of Our Heads Together And Did All The Planning And Worked Out Every Possible Scenario And Covered Every Possible Variable That We Could Think Of Then I'm Sure It Could Be Done. It's Still A One In A Million Chance But Maybe Just Maybe If The Force Was With Us We Could Pull It Off! The Fate Of The Galaxy Would Depend On It.

Ps.And I'll Say It Again What A Really Great Time I Had Arguing With You Guys. We'll Definitely Have To Do It Again Sometime!

Mouza Yesta, even if the death star made its own shields, I could still use small fighters to hit the death star trough the gaps,and then hyperspave after entering the field. I would just use many fighters to complete my objective.

Strong hold, just so you know, there i no reason to capitalize every word, in fact, it is something some moderators frown upon here.

I don't know if anybody has said this, but is it not theoretically possible for the Star Forge to create Death Star style stations?

I would say know, as it makes ships and droids, not battle stations, that and it doesnt have the carrying capacity to keep it inside the forge itself.

True, but wait a minute the KOTOR was what 3,000 years before the movies correct? Lets say the Forge lasted those thousands of years if you choose the Darkside Ending. Couldn't modifications have been made in years to build upon the Star Forge?

I Think That If The Star Forge Survived The Jedi Civil War And Was Still Around By The Time Of The Galactic Civil War And The Star Forge Could Get Ahold Of Of The Death Star's Schematics It Could Definitely Create A Death Star Of It's Own. Not Within The Star Forge Itself But In Pre-Assembled Sections That Could Be Fitted Together And Assembled By The Star Forge's Droids Or The Sith Outside The Main Structure Of The Star Forge. It Would Probably Take Some Time But It Would Be Alot Faster And Cheaper Than The Galactic Empire Could Build One Though. Who Knows It Might Even Improve It Too.

Oh And Tolemo Just So You Know I Know I Don't Have To Capitalize Every Word I Just Find That It Looks Nicer. I Only Really Go On 3 Forums Here On Neoseeker And None Of The Moderators That I've Talked To Seem To Mind It And Nobody Else That I've Talked To Seems To Mind It. I Don't Mean Any Harm By It I'm Just Here To Help Anyone Who Needs Help But If You Didn't Like It All You Had To Do Was Is Ask Me Nicely And I Would Have Stopped So After This Post I Won't Do It Anymore Because I'd Rather Have You As A Friend Than As An Enemy.

This message was edited by Stronghold on Jan 16 2008.

This message was edited by Stronghold on Jan 16 2008.

I think that the Star Forge can only build it's own designs. But if you could build anything you want, couldn't you build another Star Forge?

The Star Forge was a huge factory. We know it could at least produce Capital Ships, Bombers, Fighters And Droids. We also know that it had various Dark Side Powers. But I Think The Star Forge could produce it's own technology like the original Rakatan Capital Ships, Bombers, Fighters, and Droids as well as foreign technology like Interdictor Class Capital Ships (Leviathan). I know this because the original Interdictor Class Capital Ships were made by Republic Sienar Systems For The Republic In The Mandalorian Wars not by The Rakata. Revan and Malak had to have entered The Capital Ship's schematics into The Star Forge's computer systems for The Star Forge to be able to produce that highly advanced type of a ship. But hang on a minute some people here might say that we don't actually know whether The Star Forge produced any Interdictor Class Capital Ships or if they were just the same ones Revan and Malak used during The Mandalorian Wars. But actually we do know The Star Forge made this type of Capital Ship because it says so right here. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Interdictor-class_Cruiser
I would also guess that the high tech Sith Bombers, Sith Fighters, And Assualt Droids That were seen in Knights Of The Old Republic were not designed by The Rakata either but were actually made by Revan and Malak using a combination of Rakatan and Republic/Sith Empire technology. The Star Forge would have probably had original Rakatan Ship schematics already entered into it's computer systems but even they would have been obselete by the time Revan and Malak discovered The Star Forge so they must have designed these things themselves.

So I would conclude that The Star Forge could make just about anything you wanted and I would also argue that The Star Forge could have even made these things better. Whether it was Light Sabers, Blasters, Armor, Droids, Fighters, Bombers, Capital Ships or who knows maybe even A Death Star.

Ps. No, you probably couldn't create another Star Forge though. Remember The Star Forge can't move because its anchored to The Star. And anchoring two Star Forges to one Star sounds like it would cause The Star to go Supernova and create A Black Hole or something. But who knows though I'm no Physicist so I guess you could try it. You would be risking the disruption of the fabric of space and time though and you could possibly cause The Universe to collapse but its worth a shot! LOL

From what I understand,the star forge only functions as a true factory while it has someone controlling it,what i mean is that after malak and revan died,nobody could find it,and it stoped fiunctioning completely.

This is probably alittle irrelevant,but i felt it should be heard.

And Davik,fighters that small wouldnt do any good ramming into a battle station of that size.(Remember when John Dutch[Red Leader] crashed into the death star,that didnt do much more than scrape the surface.)

This message was edited by Mouza Yesta on Jan 22 2008.

Actually it is relevant and your right without a strong force user like Revan or Malak at it's head The Star Forge as a factory would stop all productions and essentially shut itself down by entering hibernation mode. It could lie dormant for thousands of years until another powerful Jedi or Sith rediscovered it.

Ok, for the last time, I will go over my theory. You take a ship. You disable the safeguards on the hyperdrive, or do not install them a all. You jump inside the field. The ship moves millions of times its regular speed, therefore making the force of the impact so great it would cripple the Death Star. If you are going to reply to this I suggest you people read all of my replies starting on page 9 so I d not have to keep on repeating myself.

Davik,ive read all of your replies at least twice,and theyve been the same thing over and over again,this theroy of yours was defeated long ago,i said you cant get large ships to the Death Stars hull,and the small ships ramming into the hull constantly wouldnt do anything.Sorry man,but i think your the one who hasnt been paying attention.

What would happen if someone took a escape pod sized sonic mine next to the death star?

and detonated it?