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Hoo
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Jul 11, 09 at 11:48pm
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

He can not verify his information. For all we know, it's bullshit. They claim to be Noise aligned because for the same reason others claim to be Player aligned - to cast off suspicion. And the two people claiming to be Noise happen to be the two people who say there are three Noises and not just one.

And just give your role. It's a hassle to us Players for someone to withhold information, cause we waste a phase. Why the hell are you arguing with a confirmed Player?
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shadow warrior 9
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Jul 11, 09 at 11:49pm
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

I'm starting to not care anymore because it's ridiculous...



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Jul 11, 09 at 11:55pm
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

if your referring to yourself as a confirmed player then we don't know that. You just said you were. You didn't properly roleclaim either and you started this whole noise hunt against me but whatever you win. Heres your prize:

quote Pheonyx
You are Futoshi: Noise Aligned Stage Technician
believe it if you want or you could say I changed the color or copied WereJackal. Your useless and pointless persistance has angered my usual calm attitude.


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Hoo
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Jul 12, 09 at 12:00am
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

Hm...
Possible that you could be telling the truth. Possible.
Whatever, less suspicion. However!

This is the current list:

The three in blue are confirmed Players.

1. ReaperOscuro
2. Kanon
3. shadow warrior 9
4. Hoo
6. shdwdrgn
7. HiKaRi
10. kefira
12. Clannad

13. Amethyst


This is the list that contains the three Reapers.
Noise are not specified because we cannot verify information.

1. ReaperOscuro
2. Kanon

3. shadow warrior 9
4. Hoo
6. shdwdrgn
13. Amethyst



Six people, three Reapers. Honestly, (I know you two so-called 'Noise' will jump on me for this, along with Ame), but I think that HiKaRi was wrong.

So let's focus on me <3

HiKaRi suspected Kanon, ReaperOscuro, and Hoo, myself to be Reapers.

I suspect the exact opposite.

I believe that the Reapers are Amethyst, SWarrior, and Shdwdrgn. They cooperate well with each other, and have defended each other... Although Shdwdrgn seems a bit different. I don't suspect him as much.

Look, let's have this set up:

We vote for one of any group.
If that person is a Reaper, we go on to the next person in that group. If that person is a Player or Noise, we switch to the other group and take them out. If we do, I suggest the following:

If we target the purple group, we start with Shdwdrgn, because he is at least serving the Kill Reaper. If he is a Reaper himself, then we take out Shadow Warrior. Then we go on to Amethyst. That is the optimal result.

OR we could start with me. Use either Kanon or ReaperOscuro to vote for me first, taking out two of us. This is not a problem for us Players, because we can survive with that. If I am a Reaper, take all three of us down. If I am a Player, go to the other group.

Sound good?

You can start with me.
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Jul 12, 09 at 12:05am
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

Not to sound bad or anything but I feel a framing in the works for this night phase.



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Hoo
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Jul 12, 09 at 12:15am
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

Fine, let's make this definitive.
During the next day phase, vote for me, Hoo.
Use ReaperOscuro or Kanon to vote for me first.

If you'd like, I can vote myself first.

If I am a Player, we know that HiKaRi was wrong. Then we vote for Shdwdrgn because he is most likely the Kill Reaper, and the only one who might be able to hinder this plan.

Since we have three players confirmed, there is physically no way that the Players can lose using this set-up.

I'll have my martydom yet <3

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Jul 12, 09 at 12:17am
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

Suspect all you want. I don't even care that much, seeing as I do nothing at night. I said at the start that I want another role, 'cause it's silly.

Also, I'm under suspicion for supporting the mason group? The mason group has been in the game before. They're clearly mason, just quasi as they cannot talk to each other. They're still winning with town. They're still supporting town, so why is that a bad thing? I don't see why you, Hoo, would want to kill off players in that manner. That's why I'm defending them. All in all, it just sounds absurd.

Why would you want to run off players like that? Mason are on the town's side, no matter what, and they always have been. THey win with the players. They've told us everything about themselves, it's all put down in a row. I don't see what's not coming together about this.


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shdwdrgn
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Jul 12, 09 at 12:19am
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

I'm not so sure about that though. The reapers can really have their way with you now. They can off you and frame another player or they can wait and... A. let you vote yourself off... or B. Let you vote off a player that is not a Reaper and then let the rest of the group lynch or kill you in the night... or C. Kill you tonight effectively framing me and saving their hides from the public.


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Jul 12, 09 at 12:19am
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

Also, having had the ability before, being a bomb has never been a player skill.

Just throwing that out there.




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shadow warrior 9
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Jul 12, 09 at 12:24am
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

which would explain why Hoo wants everyone to cast all their votes on him so he can blow himself up. He practically just said so himself.



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shadow warrior 9
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Jul 12, 09 at 12:27am
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

bleh idk I'm in a give up mood right now...



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Hoo
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Jul 12, 09 at 12:29am
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

Wait...Problem.
This set up, assuming we use myself as the first to die, and assuming the Kill Reaper runs rampant, kills the Players at the 5th day phase.

This casts more suspcion on me, but I propose that Shdwdrgn be the first to target me tomorrow.
If we do that, then the game will proceed like such, assuming worst case senario.

Night 3: One Player is killed by a Reaper. We will have 3 Reapers and 5 Players.

Day 4: I am voted off. Shdwdrgn votes me first. Hoo and Shdwdrgn die. We will have 2 Reapers and 4 Players.

Night 4: Shdwdrgn should have been the Kill Reaper, but if he isn't, one more Player dies. We will have 2 Reapers and 3 Players.

Day 5: If I am the Reaper, we vote Kanon. If Shdwdrgn is a Reaper, we vote SWarrior. At this point will have either a) (assuming KillReaper is dead) 1 Reaper and 4 Players, b) (assuming KillReaper is dead) 2 Reapers and 3 Players,
c) 1 Reaper and 3 Players,
d) 2 Reapers and 2 Players (Worse case scenario. Nigh imposible)

Either way, Players are going to win.

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Hoo
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Jul 12, 09 at 12:36am
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

quote shadow warrior 9
which would explain why Hoo wants everyone to cast all their votes on him so he can blow himself up. He practically just said so himself.
I only kill one person... Read, seriously.

quote shdwdrgn
I'm not so sure about that though. The reapers can really have their way with you now. They can off you and frame another player or they can wait and... A. let you vote yourself off... or B. Let you vote off a player that is not a Reaper and then let the rest of the group lynch or kill you in the night... or C. Kill you tonight effectively framing me and saving their hides from the public.
A) Then I die and my alignment is revealed. If I am a Reaper, you can ignore the set-up.
B) My alignment is still revealed. And Players still know what to do.
C) If I get killed, they die too. Since you assume that I am a Reaper, that's bad for them. They also lose their scapegoat. Total loss for Reapers.



quote Amethyst
Also, having had the ability before, being a bomb has never been a player skill.
We've never had scapegoats either.



quote Amethyst
Also, I'm under suspicion for supporting the mason group? The mason group has been in the game before. They're clearly mason, just quasi as they cannot talk to each other. They're still winning with town. They're still supporting town, so why is that a bad thing? I don't see why you, Hoo, would want to kill off players in that manner. That's why I'm defending them. All in all, it just sounds absurd.
We don't have a hint of information proving them as Mason.
They don't support Town. They have nothing to support with, and operate under Reapers, whether they want to or not.
And no matter how many Players I kill, Player's live.
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HiKaRi
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Jul 12, 09 at 12:37am
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

I'm amused at how you consider the Indy as a Player in your scenario.

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Amethyst
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Jul 12, 09 at 12:38am
re: TWEWY Mafia XI - Day 4: Love/Hate Triangle

We've always had scapegoats. Look at Wolvy, Jesse, etc.

But we do have the hints. Them giving all their information, and the write-up showing what seems to be control. Or something like that. The fact they're vanilla, they win with town, and all that is proof of a mason. That's what's proof. And I'm saying that if you're pushing for them, you're technically pushing for town to get hung, and instead wasting a phase where it could be put to better use.


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