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Topic: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.
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Sep 25, 06 at 11:48am
Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

Anyone have any thoughts on the new talents and abilities for druids in Burning Crusade. They seem to have given us some nice defensive ups against ranged attacks and melee.

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Sep 25, 06 at 11:59am
re: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

A feral druid in our guild seems displeased with the new feral talents.

I myself am very pleased, having been taken in by a false set of leaked patch notes. A new HoT to compliment the treant healing form will be nice. I can see mch advantage to being fully Restoration now.

Though it will be hard to resist the temptation of treant summons in the Balance tree... *sigh*

Free flight form 2 levels anyone can get their flight mounts is nice though. Willing to bet those things will be stupidly expensive.



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Sep 25, 06 at 4:27pm
re: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

so now druids have a new shapeshift, a healing tree basically? thats gonna make things interesting. but i must admit, im not that impressed with the new stuff. i mean compared what other classes are getting druids seem to to be getting a little cheated. but thats just my opinion.



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Sep 25, 06 at 4:53pm
re: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

Thats what im trying to figure out, im waiting for word of mouth on the druids now.

I saw the spells and talents and wasent sure what to think, nothing struck me as encredible..I did look at some of the other talent trees and other chracters seem to be getting "eye catching" talents.

Maybe it's just me, idunno. Im just not looking forward to another realm of people calling druids weak....lets see what happenes to hunters next.

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Sep 26, 06 at 5:18pm
re: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

Druids are now officially unbeatable in Outland.

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Sep 26, 06 at 5:38pm
re: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

Nah they arent unbeatable, only to Hutners when they get super nerfed as we all know they will be. They dont need nerfing, but, well no one got the short straw and someone needs to.

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Sep 26, 06 at 6:00pm
re: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

Cyclone + Entangling Roots + Flying form = Can't ever die in Outland PvP



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Sep 27, 06 at 2:14am
re: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

Its times like these that make me happy that i decided to level a druid, and now with the new talents and stuff, it should be pretty cool.



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Sep 27, 06 at 2:41am
re: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

quote Toddy2hottie
Hunters need nerfing more than any other class.
Fixed.

And I'm assuming they're going to change flight form so that it's only castable when outside of combat. Otherwise, druids would be getting something nice from Blizzard, and that just doesn't happen.



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Sep 27, 06 at 5:18am
re: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

I think the new Druid Talents are alright, but some of the spells are kinda stupid, like Tree form. Cyclone does look pretty cool though.



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Sep 27, 06 at 6:12am
re: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

In a huge raid there's no shortage of huge heals from pallies and priests. I don't see why you can't just be content in assuming that Tre form is for situational purposes when you can get away with just HoT spells.

Besides, if it covered all healing spells we'd be right back where we started with Innervate. Raid leaders would insist upon it and we'd have no freedom to spec. Doubly, if they knew we had free range of healing spells, theoretically there would be no reason for us to leave it. :/ I like my Moonfire...



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Sep 27, 06 at 8:43am
re: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

quote Inferno Penguin
quote Toddy2hottie
Hunters need nerfing more than any other class.
Fixed.

And I'm assuming they're going to change flight form so that it's only castable when outside of combat. Otherwise, druids would be getting something nice from Blizzard, and that just doesn't happen.
WTF :S

Warriors are most nerfed do you even know what nerf's hunter has had?

Aimed shot nerf
Bestial wrath Nerfed
Arcane shot was nerfed early on with its CD
Elf hunters Shadowmeld+Aimed was nerfed
Pets run speeds were nerfed

Those are some nerfs now give us some buffs in PvE endgame otherwise were decently balanced


Give warlocks a huge nerf if anything
Druids instant flight form? Nerf please
Cyclone 6 secconds doing nothing invunrable? Perfect for stealthing/Flying away Nerf please

Tree of life form is insulting XXX turns into a tree! Casts (new instant healing spell here)

XX turns into a cat XX gains furor XXX's claw crits you
You hit XXX for 312
XXX gains 200 hp from XX' (healing spell here)
you crit XXX for 2.4k
you are afflcited by cyclone
XXX gains flight form
You are leaving combat

Nerf plx

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Sep 27, 06 at 9:48am
re: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

Your grip of game mechanics is tenuous at best.

Flight form, as you'll see, is on a 3 second cast. Very likely this will not be useable in combat, because, well, nothing good ever is.

Shifting forms around is costly mana-wise. That's why while everyone got useful trinkets in BWL, druids got a piece of crap that reduces shapeshifting costs for 20 seconds.

Let us not disregard that feral and balance druids find difficulty in acquiring loot equal to their restoration counterparts. Should I ever decide to go Moonkin and effectively ban myself from raids I'd have to somehow acquire mage gear. I've only seen one person do it effectively and they were reduced to wearing green cloths.

The fact that hunters can still stunlock someone and call city guards on someone and FD makes them nerf-worthy. Contrary to a druid, all gear is hunter gear.

Druids already had Roots and bear form Bash, why complain about Cyclone? It's only useful for 6 seconds of us either running away or putting someone aside.

The tree form moves at 50% speed and can ONLY cast heal-over-time spells, meaning that instant heals come from Swiftmend, which has a fair cooldown. Also, if you get killed by someone who used tree form, then you just got whupped by a restoration druid, the very prospect of which means you got owned.



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Sep 27, 06 at 11:38am
re: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

quote Sonic Flash
Your grip of game mechanics is tenuous at best.

Flight form, as you'll see, is on a 3 second cast. Very likely this will not be useable in combat, because, well, nothing good ever is.

Shifting forms around is costly mana-wise. That's why while everyone got useful trinkets in BWL, druids got a piece of crap that reduces shapeshifting costs for 20 seconds.

Let us not disregard that feral and balance druids find difficulty in acquiring loot equal to their restoration counterparts. Should I ever decide to go Moonkin and effectively ban myself from raids I'd have to somehow acquire mage gear. I've only seen one person do it effectively and they were reduced to wearing green cloths.

The fact that hunters can still stunlock someone and call city guards on someone and FD makes them nerf-worthy. Contrary to a druid, all gear is hunter gear.

Druids already had Roots and bear form Bash, why complain about Cyclone? It's only useful for 6 seconds of us either running away or putting someone aside.

The tree form moves at 50% speed and can ONLY cast heal-over-time spells, meaning that instant heals come from Swiftmend, which has a fair cooldown. Also, if you get killed by someone who used tree form, then you just got whupped by a restoration druid, the very prospect of which means you got owned.

Flight Form (Shapeshift)

Requires Level 68
498 Mana
Instant cast
Transforms the Druid into a flight form, increasing movement speed by 60% and allowing you to fly. Can only use this form in Outland.

The act of shapeshifting frees the caster of Polymorph and Movement Impairing effects


The battle was just random druid things i know as i hardly ever see druids or use them becuase they bore me but cyclone + Running/flying away does seem unfair in outland

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Besides any all healing spells that are/give a HoT + shapeshifting (Talent natural shapeshifter in Balance reducing mana cost) seems unfair anyway having 3+ HoT's at once while tanking/dps'ing in pvp then if you feel like your going to lose cyclone + fly

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Sep 27, 06 at 10:27pm
re: Druid Talent Tree Revealed.

Im not even going to respond to that fool who says druids should be nerf'd....dont bother discussing a class you have no understanding about.

At the same time it's that exact understanding and knowledge of this class that pains me to re/roll. Word of mouth has spread and druids are now worthless.

Im rolling a BloodElf Rogue and thats the only solution that i see to this problem in Wow. If i was guranteed a no jail sentance i would personally beat down the developers who ruined this class, believe that.

Got 500g saved up on my druid, so im gonna spoil the $hit out of my sweet little baby rogue lol.

*insert cute cuddly smile here*

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